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Are crappy public high schools more lawless these days?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:37 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:37 am
Or is that just perception? I went to a shitty public school and people were always scrapping and teachers were always breaking up fights. But none of the fights were recorded, because none of us were walking around school all day with big arse camcorders.
Nowadays the video of every other fight ends up on social media and mom group texts within 24 hours.
I don't know how much better and less lawless crappy public schools were 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, or if they were better at all. You just never saw video evidence of how crappy and lawless they were.
Nowadays the video of every other fight ends up on social media and mom group texts within 24 hours.
I don't know how much better and less lawless crappy public schools were 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, or if they were better at all. You just never saw video evidence of how crappy and lawless they were.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:38 am
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:38 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Went to an average high school and there were fights all the time “I’ll meet you at the tree!”. Heard they cut that tree down after we graduated.
But to answer your question I have no idea if there are more or less now vs. then.
But to answer your question I have no idea if there are more or less now vs. then.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:39 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I've taught in various high schools for the last 20 years, and in the first 17 years, I saw two fights total. When we came back from Covid, I'd see one a week. Now we're down to 1 a month.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:40 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:42 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I went to a public HS in the middle of Missouri. There were some fights, the normal greasers smoking cigarettes in the restrooms, some guys drinking alcohol out of DrPepper cans all day and some guys tripping on shroooms or dropping acid in class. Back in the early 90s.
But we all got a quality education and no one harassed the faculty.
Our idea of a good weekend was to go to the river or someone's cattle pasture, build a bonfire and drink. Maybe some attempts at cow tipping afterward.
But we all got a quality education and no one harassed the faculty.
Our idea of a good weekend was to go to the river or someone's cattle pasture, build a bonfire and drink. Maybe some attempts at cow tipping afterward.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:43 am to Violent Hip Swivel
quote:
Or is that just perception? I went to a shitty public school and people were always scrapping and teachers were always breaking up fights. But none of the fights were recorded, because none of us were walking around school all day with big arse camcorders.
I currently go to a large public high school. Yes. Its very crazy. There are fights all the time and the school sucks. Its I'm sure less crazy but still alot happens. (ascension schools are supposed to be good too I thought)
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:44 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I went to a small town louisiana public. There was the occasional fight but it wasnt anything major. I work at a large metro public school (1600 students) now. I know its not a 1 to 1 comparison but this shite is nuts. Shits gotten so much worse since covid. Kids dont care about anything. Grades, respecting adults, following rules, none of it. Our district admin unfortunately doesnt value enforcing punishments so small things go unchecked until it grows into big things.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:45 am to Violent Hip Swivel
It’s a fair point. I vividly remember all out brawls sparking other brawls.
Now my kids go to that same high school and the overall behavior has gotten better not worse. I know overall, the public schools in Louisiana are shite. But there are some decent ones, although almost exclusively in very small towns.
Now my kids go to that same high school and the overall behavior has gotten better not worse. I know overall, the public schools in Louisiana are shite. But there are some decent ones, although almost exclusively in very small towns.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:45 am to lawlcow318008
quote:as someone that started posting in high school (think i signed up in 8th grade actually) don't let this place warp your sense of reality.
I currently go to a large public high school.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:46 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I have a Jr at a local High School in a north east DFW suburb, the average home price in the area is $450,000.00.
The school is the wild wild west, freaking kids are out of control.
And there's 3500+ of them
The school is the wild wild west, freaking kids are out of control.
And there's 3500+ of them
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:49 am to Pedro
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Shits gotten so much worse since covid. Kids dont care about anything. Grades, respecting adults, following rules, none of it. Our district admin unfortunately doesnt value enforcing punishments so small things go unchecked until it grows into big things.
We're in the same boat. We were punishing kids left and right, but the district said we were over-punishing our kids, and now it's not worth writing up students as they won't get much of a punishment. The district cares more about that data than they do anything else.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:55 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Kids will always misbehave, do stupid stuff and vent emotions or aggression. It's simply biological. Their brains have not fully developed yet and their bodies are raging with developmental hormones. That's why we call them kids and not smaller adults.
What has changed in the modern environment is the authoritative controls on this. In the past parents and teachers acted firmly (and collectively) in response to this. Now teachers are either afraid to get involved, or worse, chose the wrong side based on some misguided political allegiances. And the parents went from "hold my kid at the principals office because I'm coming down there to put his head through a wall" to "how dare you punish my child, this is everyone else's fault".
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:56 am to Porter Osborne Jr
This is a nationwide problem and it's the number 1 reason teachers are quitting in droves.
Ask any teacher that has quit recently and they will all tell you the same thing. Kids do whatever they want, the parents back them up and then the administrators cave to the parents.
Thus you have a bunch of over-sized entitled shits walking around posing as adults.
Ask any teacher that has quit recently and they will all tell you the same thing. Kids do whatever they want, the parents back them up and then the administrators cave to the parents.
Thus you have a bunch of over-sized entitled shits walking around posing as adults.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:57 am to Violent Hip Swivel
quote:
Are crappy public high schools more lawless these days?
Go watch the opening scene to Lean on Me
*ETA: removed link b/c I forgot there was nudity
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:00 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I remember there being fights at the private school I went to. The private school had a pretty bad crowd because of all the plant baw children who got kicked out of public schools ended up at the private.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:03 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Middle School I went to was pretty wild, fights at least 2-3 days a week. Calmed down some when I got to H.S.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:04 am to Violent Hip Swivel
quote:
Are crappy public high schools more lawless these days?
Public school in the Bronx. You tell me.
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:05 am to Violent Hip Swivel
This is what happens when Coolio dies.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:08 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I have friends who have kids in public school and it just depends on the school.
A lot of it is blown out of proportion by the private $chool backer$
There are plusses and minuses to both.
A lot of it is blown out of proportion by the private $chool backer$
There are plusses and minuses to both.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:11 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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I've taught in various high schools for the last 20 years, and in the first 17 years, I saw two fights total. When we came back from Covid, I'd see one a week. Now we're down to 1 a month.
Super solid quantitative data contribution, thanks!
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