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Are college textbooks still a massive scam?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:42 am
Been a few years since I had to buy any but I remember the increasing absurdity. You'd think if states gave a shite about the students' financial well-being they'd at least put some structure around keeping those costs down at public universities where they have some sway over policy since it doesn't affect their bottom line.
Unless of course all the relevant people are being bribed by the publishers.
Unless of course all the relevant people are being bribed by the publishers.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:43 am to Thundercles
Now it’s the homework keys they get you with. Gotta pay to do your homework online.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:43 am to Thundercles
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You'd think if states gave a shite about the students' financial well-being they'd at least put some structure around keeping those costs down at public universities where they have some sway over policy since it doesn't affect their bottom line.
I’d rather not have government setting prices on private transactions.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:44 am to Thundercles
Yes. At ULL I had to buy a textbook that the professor wrote himself. Said everyone had to buy it and tear off attendance sheets in the back to turn in every day.
My wife and I had the same class, and he said I had to buy two textbooks and we couldn’t share.
I didn’t because that’s stupid
My wife and I had the same class, and he said I had to buy two textbooks and we couldn’t share.
I didn’t because that’s stupid
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:44 am to Thundercles
Its also now a high school scam.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:50 am to dyslexiateechur
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Gotta pay to do your homework online.
Wat
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:51 am to Thundercles
Lobby = legalized corruption
Healthcare industry is the absolute worst.
Healthcare industry is the absolute worst.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:52 am to Thundercles
Yeah, you need codes to access the webpage to access homework and tests online.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:52 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I’d rather not have government setting prices on private transactions.
Not setting prices, but I'd say setting rules around how often a department requires the "new edition". If I recall, they'd go one edition up of a history or English book and slightly rearrange the material and charge an even higher price. Students couldn't buy used because the material was slightly different.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:53 am to Thundercles
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Gotta pay to do your homework online.
Wat
it's been a scam for a while
Homework is online
to get the code for the online portal, one needs to buy a new $700 textbook
trade in the textbook for cover at the bar
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:53 am to A Smoke Break
Oh yeah, I do kind of remember that you could buy a math book for super cheap but the activation code was like $100. What a crock of shite.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:54 am to Thundercles
I knew a guy who would check them out of the library and just pay the fine at the end of the semester. He had to be quick because a lot of other people had the same idea.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:56 am to Thundercles
I imagine college kids just pirate the books now. Most of the popular ones are online somewhere.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:01 am to LordSaintly
At my son's college, the campus bookstore lets you rent them.
One semester, I got his book list and went to every online bookstore I could find (including Amazon) and I couldn't beat the rental price.
Still overpriced though...
One semester, I got his book list and went to every online bookstore I could find (including Amazon) and I couldn't beat the rental price.
Still overpriced though...
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:03 am to Thundercles
I have a friend who has a PhD in math from Stanford who is a tenured professor at Georgia Tech. When he was doing his post grad work he, along with 10 other math majors from around the world, co-authored a Calculus text book. One of the most used collegiate math textbooks ever published, since the mid 1980s. He has one of every "edition" and he has shown me numerous times that the ONLY difference between the first and the last edition is the numbering of odd and even questions in the book....and the answer key in the back of the book. The 10 co-authors do not even do that...they merely have a group of grad students re-arrange them. That book is selling new on Amazon in the latest edition for $137 a copy LOL. I don't know how much money that book has made but I know that dude owns a very nice home in in the Highlands and has a VERY nice house on the intercoastal in Melbourne, Florida. He has made some serious bank with that book.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:04 am to LordSaintly
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pirate the books
That's what my kids did.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:06 am to Thundercles
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Been a few years since I had to buy any but I remember the increasing absurdity. You'd think if states gave a shite about the students' financial well-being they'd at least put some structure around keeping those costs down at public universities where they have some sway over policy since it doesn't affect their bottom line.
Unless of course all the relevant people are being bribed by the publishers.
I had a physics prof who published the physics textbook he taught from who would copy pages out of it for his students to use. I asked him once why he did it and he said the question was why didn't more professors do it. The answer is obvious, they love money like most people LOL. The physics prof was a great teacher and he was convinced that most teachers would do the same thing...
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:08 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I’d rather not have government setting prices on private transactions.
I also would not like the government to fund said private, poorly thought out transactions.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:12 am to SulphursFinest
At UNO, we had some professors with opposite reactions.
One professor bitched that they made him put out a new edition every 4 years. The first year of the new edition, he would include a cross reference of what changed between the previous edition and the current edition. If there was any new information, he would provide that as well. Got a lot of heat, but said he was tenured so who cares.
Had another that tried to have multiple copies available in the library and would tell us what pages to print each week. Library put a stop to that.
One professor bitched that they made him put out a new edition every 4 years. The first year of the new edition, he would include a cross reference of what changed between the previous edition and the current edition. If there was any new information, he would provide that as well. Got a lot of heat, but said he was tenured so who cares.
Had another that tried to have multiple copies available in the library and would tell us what pages to print each week. Library put a stop to that.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:13 am to SulphursFinest
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ULL I had to buy a textbook that the professor wrote himself.
I had a professor like this once, I think we used the book like three or four times all semester
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