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re: Archaeologist Carbon-Date Camel Bones, Discover Major Discrepancy In Bible Story

Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:13 am to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:13 am to
BCE

one of my first threads was about this.

If BCE and BC are interchangeable, then they would have to have the same "genisis" point, the event that divides "before the common era" and the "common era"
what is it? Oh yeah, the relative "birth of christ"


shite, this is like not using the Gregorian calendar because a pope made it.
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:14 am to
Ken Ham says we can't trust such dating methods. "We weren't there"
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:15 am to
Ok, so you mean radioactive dating, not carbon dating. Carbon dating can only be used to date things up to around 60,000 years ago. Carbon-14 has a half life of 5730 years...so after 10 half lives or 5730 years, .00195 of the original carbon-14 remains..in millions of years, there would be undetectable amounts.


About the article.. that was from answeringgenesis.org. An obvious creation site. I can't even tell if they are taking data from an actual article or not (are they?). I'm curious myself, but I was expecting a link to a website like that. Where did they get the data from, and was it from legitimate scientists?

Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:19 am to
As much as I appreciate yet another bit of research to question biblical narratives I have to say you can't debate a Christian on the bible and win.

The bible means whatever the believer thinks it means. I've witnessed believers turning the murder by she bears into "God's mercy" or the immorality of noah's ark into "God's plan".

So note to other atheists, don't get caught in that.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 10:20 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:21 am to
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“While these findings may have been published recently, those of us on the inside have known the essential facts for a generation now," Harris conveyed to HuffPost Religion through associates at JTS. "This is just one of many anachronisms in the Bible, but these do not detract from its sanctity, because it is a spiritual source, not a historical one.”

This guy gets it
Posted by Drank
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:25 am to
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The ark held two of every animal.



For some reason I find the idea of two kangaroos on the arc to be one of the funniest things I've ever considered


Two of every KIND not two of every ANIMAL.
This is yet another area where people are misinformed and misrepresent biblical history.
meh, it's been that way since the beginning.
Posted by JakeTheDog
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:29 am to
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Ok, so you mean radioactive dating, not carbon dating. Carbon dating can only be used to date things up to around 60,000 years ago. Carbon-14 has a half life of 5730 years...so after 10 half lives or 5730 years, .00195 of the original carbon-14 remains..in millions of years, there would be undetectable amounts.


I used the wrong verbiage,. I apologize.

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About the article.. that was from answeringgenesis.org. An obvious creation site. I can't even tell if they are taking data from an actual article or not (are they?). I'm curious myself, but I was expecting a link to a website like that. Where did they get the data from, and was it from legitimate scientists?


well that's why I gave two links that discuss the matter. As I stated the subject is so politicized by people on both sides that's impossible to find an un-slanted version of what happened. The only thing that both the creationist and anti-creationist links I gave agree on is that radioactive dating did indeed incorrectly age the Mt. St. Helens rocks. Neither side of the debate denies that the rocks were incorrectly identified as thousands or millions of years old. Instead the debate rages over what that misidentification means. Creationists claim it proves science is wrong and the earth is like 6,000 years old. Anti-creationists state that the finding were taken out of context and are meaningless. Who's right? I don't know. Settling who is or is not right on that matter was never my intention.

Posted by Drank
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:30 am to
Because HuffPo is where I go for non-biased religious news.


Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:40 am to
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Where did they get the data from, and was it from legitimate scientists?


The same scientists that came up with global warming. Their work was finished there so they moved on to this project.
Posted by Geaux9
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:41 am to
What's the point of this? It's not hard to tell that most of the bible is a lie or just a metaphor. If any Christians take the bible literally, their too dumb to be fixed
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:42 am to
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Their to dumb to be fixed





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Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:42 am to
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their too dumb to be fixed
You tell em!
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:43 am to
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The same scientists that came up with global warming.


Using the same scientific method that gave us modern technology and made our dominance as a species possible. But yeah, frick those guys. Tell me, what great accomplishments were brought about by studying your ancient story book? None really? Just a bunch of wars, you say? Yeah, I think I'll stick with the scientists on this one.




















Redbone
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:45 am to
This topic should have brought out all the crazies. I didn't read all the pages. Did criketycrickit provide us with his normal single highly intellectually significant post yet???
Posted by Geaux9
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:45 am to
Not even going to edit that. Fml
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:47 am to
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Pissed?

He loves us so much he came to earth to experience life like one of us and die for us. But, he'll be pissed if we don't capitalize God? You really don't understand Christianity.


You forgot to capitalize two Hs when referring to God/Jesus.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:47 am to
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...their too dumb to be fixed


"their" should be soooo insulted.
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:50 am to
im not saying that this is necessarily true, but theologians have a mature earth theory which is Christians' rebuttal against carbon dating that disproves the bible's chronology. Its worth taking a look at.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:50 am to
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Not even going to edit that.


You can't edit/hide/fix stupid.
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