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re: Anybody ever done allergy injections?

Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by GM
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:40 pm to
Can also opt for sublingual drops twice per day instead of shots. Much more convenient, and work well. Costs me $200 every 3 months.
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
6185 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:32 pm to
I am only about a year into a 3-5 yr process. So yeah it is working. From what the allergist tells me it will progressively get better s time goes on. It is ot an over night thing.
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:34 pm to
I was allergic to everything but pet dander.My back itched so bad after they did the scratch test. It was miserable.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:36 pm to
Voodoo
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:36 pm to
Did it probably 6 years ago. Changed my life. Seriously. Idk about the expense since my parents paid but it is amazing the difference it made. It was a pain in the arse going to do it every week but after my first 8ish treatments I started doing them at home.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:51 pm to
I have typically the same shite as you do...I sneeze my arse off from March to early June, and have done this since I was a child...the only thing that half way worked was benadryl and it really just makes me so damn sleepy that I stop sneezing...I tried every single one of the modern non-drowsy pills and none of them do much and all make me a little sleepy...

recently, I saw that one of the steroid nose sprays (nasacourt) is now available over the counter, so I tried it. so far, it is working very well. I do still sneeze from time to time, but I mowed grass yesterday and didn't sneeze once...it is about ten bucks at wal mart, so I would certainly try that before doing the shots...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:08 pm to
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I tried every single one of the modern non-drowsy pills and none of them do much and all make me a little sleepy...

recently, I saw that one of the steroid nose sprays (nasacourt) is now available over the counter, so I tried it. so far, it is working very well. I do still sneeze from time to time, but I mowed grass yesterday and didn't sneeze once...it is about ten bucks at wal mart, so I would certainly try that before doing the shots...

I have some Nasacort that I've been using since Tuesday (just because the doc that gave me the cortisone shot told me to take it), but I don't feel like I need it. Also taking Xyzal at night because it was prescribed, and don't feel like I need that either. I feel like that steroid shot has knocked out any hint of a feeling of an attack. That may all change once the shot wears off, and I might feel like I need the Nasacort and it might work, I don't really know. Typically, I wouldn't count on it, because like you I have tried everything non-drowsy with no luck.. Zyrtec, Claritin.. I tried Allegra again starting on Friday, and by Sunday I could have sworn I was actually allergic to Allegra. Considering the fact that you respond similarly to me to all these non-drowsy drugs, I'm hopeful that the Nasacort will help once the cortisone wears off. It would sure beat the hell out of potentially paying thousands of dollars for immunotherapy if it's not necessary.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:11 pm to
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, and work well

No. It doesn't. I'm doing shots currently. Our series allows pt's to give shots at home so long as they are low risk, which most are. This improves efficacy, compliance, and tolerability with no change in cost.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:15 pm to
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How well do they work? Are they expensive? I have an appointment with an allergist in a couple weeks, and I'm just wondering what to expect.

Works better the younger you are. Your allergist may over play the effectiveness. In adults the success rates range from 50-70%. Higher in kids. The younger you are the better it works. I recommend yearly retesting to monitor effectiveness. If someone has no improvement by year 2 or 3, they most likely will not ever. I've seen allergist give folks shots for over 15 years because that's where the money is. Some insurances pay up to $8500/yr for the antigen. Our cost is $1400. Not including testing, needles, and epi pens. Or vists. Depending on your insurance it can be very expensive.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:18 pm to
I've done allergy shots with no resolve, but flonase is a wonder drug.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:19 pm to
And expect at least 6 months to a year to see benefit. If you have severe allergies uncontrolled with meds, it may be worth it. They should be able to tell you exactly how much you have to pay out of pocket up front. We let people know up front and never charge more than our quoted price. This should be the norm.
Posted by Big_Al_316
Mobile, AL
Member since Jan 2005
3137 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:21 pm to
Did it when I was 3 or 4. Twice a week shots. Still had allergy issues into adulthood. Went a few years ago to start again. A few months into it, had a reaction in the doctor's office, ambulance to the ER, an overnight stay in the hospital. Doctor claimed it had nothing to do with the shots. That was the end of that one.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:24 pm to
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It is expensive as i don't think it is covered by insurance and requires numerous office visits as the allergist slowly increases the dose and looks for reactions.


Most insurances cover it. Mine pays 100%. If your insurance doesn't or the cost seems excessive, ask for a cash price. If you pay up front, you might can get it for less than $200 a month. That's high, but the allergen is very expensive for the doc. By paying up front you eliminate the risk and insure profit. Like I said, ours cost us about $1400 to the supplier. In severe cases where I thought they really needed it. I have given it to them at cost if they paid the $1400 ensuring I wasn't out anything. Some clinics formulate their own allergens so it could be cheaper. Not sure. They're secretive about it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Works better the younger you are.

That's unfortunate, I'll be 34 next week, and I never even had allergy issues until I was 16 or so. I was born in Louisiana and lived in the south until I was 16, then I moved to Oregon and all hell broke loose with the allergies. I was only there for 2 years before I moved back down to Louisiana, but the allergy problem stayed with me. What do you think happened? Did the foreign stuff kick my system into overdrive and it stayed there, or did I just "grow into" the allergies and their start in Oregon was just coincidence? And does this mean anything (good or bad) for my odds with the injections?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:35 pm to
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Some insurances pay up to $8500/yr for the antigen. Our cost is $1400. Not including testing, needles, and epi pens. Or vists. Depending on your insurance it can be very expensive.
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Most insurances cover it. Mine pays 100%. If your insurance doesn't or the cost seems excessive, ask for a cash price. If you pay up front, you might can get it for less than $200 a month. That's high, but the allergen is very expensive for the doc. By paying up front you eliminate the risk and insure profit. Like I said, ours cost us about $1400 to the supplier.

I really appreciate the info here btw. If I had to guess, I would say I will be out of pocket quite a bit because my insurance is cheap and doesn't pay for shite. I guess I will find out in a couple weeks.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:37 pm to
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That's unfortunate, I'll be 34 next week, and I never even had allergy issues until I was 16 or so. I was born in Louisiana and lived in the south until I was 16, then I moved to Oregon and all hell broke loose with the allergies. I was only there for 2 years before I moved back down to Louisiana, but the allergy problem stayed with me. What do you think happened? Did the foreign stuff kick my system into overdrive and it stayed there, or did I just "grow into" the allergies and their start in Oregon was just coincidence? And does this mean anything (good or bad) for my odds with the injections?

You can still get benefit. If your comfortable with the cost and your allergies are severe like mine, it's worth a try. I'm 40 and just started mine back. I took them as a kid but didn't finish because we moved and the allergist was two hours away. They did better for a while but have worsened over time. As far as developing allergies, it can happen. Lots of theories. Sometimes new allergen exposure can ramp up your immune system. When it does it starts attacking previously benign allergens. Another thought is that when the body is fighting off an infection, it may attack indiscriminately and new allergies form. I'm allergic to a few molds now and had zero as a child.

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:42 pm to
Mine incapacitate me during the spring. I'm f$%king miserable for two to three months every year. And I hate the way antihistamines make me feel. I get drugged out and medicine headed if they're strong enough to work.

What meds have you tried? I would try a daily antihistamine like Claritin, zyrtec or allegra with a steroid nasal spray or nasal antihistamine. Nasacort is a nasal steroid that's otc now. Takes about two weeks to work. May work a little faster if you start out twice a day. Zyrtec is more effective than Claritin or allegra generally, but also more sedating.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:48 pm to
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As far as developing allergies, it can happen. Lots of theories. Sometimes new allergen exposure can ramp up your immune system. When it does it starts attacking previously benign allergens. Another thought is that when the body is fighting off an infection, it may attack indiscriminately and new allergies form. I'm allergic to a few molds now and had zero as a child.
Interesting stuff.

Here's another question: I know allergic reactions are an immune response, but is it an overreaction or more of a malfunction? In other words, is there a correlation between allergies and people with good health otherwise? I ask because I rarely get sick and I think my immune system is pretty strong.

And another unfortunate side note: I think I'm allergic to something in beer.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:54 pm to
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What meds have you tried? I would try a daily antihistamine like Claritin, zyrtec or allegra with a steroid nasal spray or nasal antihistamine. Nasacort is a nasal steroid that's otc now. Takes about two weeks to work. May work a little faster if you start out twice a day. Zyrtec is more effective than Claritin or allegra generally, but also more sedating.

I have tried those three for sure (probably 3 or 4 years ago) with no success, and what really made this a problem for me was this past Friday I tried Allegra again (instead of my typical trusty benadryl), and by Sunday I was a mess. Easter dinner with the family kind of took a turn for the worse when I sneezed a snot rocket onto the kitchen floor.

I am taking Nasacort now, but I can't be sure that it's helping because the shot I got Monday evening has really seemed to knock out all of my symptoms. I honestly don't know if "my season" is over because I have been almost 100% symptom-free since that shot, and I never imagined it would work this well. I am afraid of what might happen when it starts to wear off, though.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27320 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:07 am to
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: I know allergic reactions are an immune response, but is it an overreaction or more of a malfunction? In other words, is there a correlation between allergies and people with good health otherwise? I ask because I rarely get sick and I think my immune system is pretty strong. And another unfortunate side note: I think I'm allergic to something in beer.


Overreaction. In fact, there is evidence that people with severe allergies are less likely to get cancer. The thought is that our overactive immune systems kill the shite out of cancer cells before they can take hold.

It may or may not be something in the beer. If I eat red apples or cherries, my mouth itches, lips swell and my asthma acts up. But I'm not allergic to either one. Or red food dye they sometimes use to pretty them up. We think it's what they call oral allergy syndrome. My body thinks they are something I'm allergic to and reacts. It's limited in reaction and won't always do it. That started when I was in med school. I'm hoping that'll get better. And occasionally I'll do that with beer.
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