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re: Anybody else following ancient aliens theories?

Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Jiggy Moondust
South Carolina
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:23 am to
Nephillim
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:23 am to
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For fricks sake, would you stop with the dumb shite
Posted by Russell2Bowe
Memphis
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:30 am to
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If it wasn't extraterrestrial intervention then all other explanations are just dumb


You sir are a meme. I can't bring myself to believe that you are a real person. You are just an anthropomorphic internet meme.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:39 am to
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Ever heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest solution is always the correct one. What's more complicated, that convoluted mess you just typed out or aliens?


What's the simpler explanation, aliens or magic? See: there's a limit to the utility of Occam's Razor. It's not the end-all-be-all you think it is.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:42 am to
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The Nazca Lines in Peru


Done by the indigenous people of the area. It's a myth that they can only be seen from an airplane or space ship - there are foothills right nearby that give you an overhead view.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:45 am to
I love all the theories as entertainment.

The only one I find intriguing is that recently scientists discovered a possible extra planet in our solar system on an elliptical orbit of the sun. The book "The 12th Planet" says aliens come to earth every 3500 or so years when the planet comes into range of their ships and they site huge leaps and bounds of technology and government in those time intervals. The discovery of that planet's possible existence makes the book all the more intriguing.

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:46 am to
Do you sit in a room all day by your lonesome and think, "what's the shittiest thread I could possibly come up with?"

If not, I feel sorry for you and your family.
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
853 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:46 am to
Sounds like a good t-shirt idea.

"I was the recipient of alien technology and all I got was this lousy pyramid"
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:51 am to
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I helped build a log cabin from scratch. We didn't have a means to move the large logs that were sometimes a quarter mile away from our cabin site through the swamp. We simply used our brains and muscles efficiently. lift the big log up (sometimes using a lever to help), put some smaller logs under it, roll it across the smaller logs while taking the last log and bringing it to the front. We got 4 logs that weighed probably close to 1500lbs 15ft in the air using our muscles, levers, and blocks. We were as primitive as could be and rarely used modern tools for all of this. The only modern tool we used was a chainsaw, and nails and a hammer, if you want to call nails and hammer modern.


There's a Youtube video of a guy who builds himself a small brick house using only his hands and rocks, wood, earth and water he finds around himself in the woods. He fashions a rock into an axe by chipping it and cuts down the trees and limbs he needs to build the house frame and start a fire. He digs a pit and using the dirt next to him and water from a creek nearby he fashions a kiln which he then bakes mud bricks in.

Just because people can't imagine how to do it themselves from their desks in air conditioned offices doesn't mean that someone with more natural know-how and imagination and the belief that it can be done can't do it.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:02 pm to
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The explanation for that doesn't have to involve alien silliness.

Look into Göbekli Tepe. What is looking most likely in light of such finds is that we had the whole timeline for human development wrong. We had probably moved on from the hunter-gatherer phase and achieved the agricultural, civilization-building stage in certain areas much earlier than we thought we did.

These civilizations probably share common architectural tendencies and mythologies like the flood because they likely share a common root in the ancient past. There was probably a great proto-civilization located in what is now the Persian Gulf. At the time, we know based on climate research and sea levels it would have been a very fertile valley, into the head of which would have flowed the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, as well as another river that is now a wadi in Saudi but would have been a great river at the time. These would have formed one giant river down the center of said valley.

This would have been the Eden of legend. Rising sea levels at the end of the last glacial maximum flooded this area. This gave rise to the flood mythology.

The exodus of peoples from this valley spread the remnants of this culture throughout the world. In the Mayan/Incan/aztec cultures you see legends of "white gods appearing on ships" to bring them knowledge. Thta isn't aliens, it's this proto culture from the Persian Gulf Valley during its diaspora following the flood. You see the Sumerian city of Uruk appear just north of this now flooded valley right after it would have flooded with the "first" written language, this culture appearing out of nowhere... supposedly.

It doesn't have to involve aliens at all. It just has to do with us getting the timelines and origins of various cultures wrong and having the essential archaeology to get it right obscured from discovery by lying at the bottom of the Gulf.


Do you have any articles or reading on this?

That sounds fascinating.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:03 pm to
That theory actually sounds plausible to me. Why aren't archaeologists sweeping the bottom of the Persian Gulf?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Do you have any articles or reading on this?



The article I posted previously talks at length about it.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67007 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:16 pm to
It's expensive, and it's in a very geopolitically tense region.

They are just beginning to explore these coastal regions. A few years ago, a small neolithic village was discovered on the bottom of the English Channel.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Why aren't archaeologists sweeping the bottom of the Persian Gulf?


They are starting to, but it's expensive, tedious, and the region is a violent, unstable place.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:20 pm to
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Nephillim


Whether you meant this as a real explanation or were simply trolling the zealots...kudos to you!

Very few things on Youtube are funnier than folks who believe in ancient giants...
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:37 pm to
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The article I posted previously talks at length about it.


It's a good one. Most importantly, it points out that just because there are "myths" doesn't mean they should be discarded as pure fantasy, particularly when every culture has the same ones. That should tell you that something akin to said myth did happen. They're probably all a shade of the truth. It also doesn't mean we should explain them with "aliens" when there are simpler, cleaner, natural explanations. There were probably multiple "Atlanti" around the world that were destroyed by inundation at the end of the last glacial maximum. Given that most human civilizations have sprung up throughout the ages along the coasts (and even today this holds true for population distribution and locations of major cities), always next to a river that provided the neighboring inland region with seasonal flooding to fertilize the fields, it stands to reason that the most advanced cultural centers were all in the areas that were also most affected by the flooding accompanying the retreat of the glaciers, thus every surviving culture in the world has a flood myth and a "lost greatness, lost knowledge, golden past" myth, because all of those cultures grew out of what was basically an apocalypse where a lot of progress WAS lost to a flood, though not progress they gained from aliens and not a flood sent by a vengeful god.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67007 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:49 pm to
Exactly. What of America's great cities would survive such an event today?
It'd basically be Dallas, KC, Nashville, Denver, and St. Louis. That's about it.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:55 pm to
They are theories but some of the shite is really bizarre and of course since a lot of it doesn't fit into our world view it is just blown off
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:00 pm to
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They are theories but some of the shite is really bizarre and of course since a lot of it doesn't fit into our world view it is just blown off



Too many people have staked their livelihoods and reputations on maintaining the current historical narrative that any QUESTIONS - not research, not publications - but QUESTIONS about validity are met with scorn and blackballing.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Do you have any articles or reading on this?

That sounds fascinating.



Fingerprints of the Gods
Magicians of the Gods both by Graham Hancock

Hancock has been on a series of podcasts (including Joe Rogan). Very fascinating guy
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