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re: any young earth creationists on the OT?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:46 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:46 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Spontaneous generation cannot exist w/o a creator.
No one said anything about Spontaneous generation.
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So, either nothing exists or someone had to create everything supernaturally. This concept even applies to the "Big Bangers" (i.e. where'd the space dust come from)
There's a third option: We don't know. We have Theories based on data but there's still a lot of conjecture.
You're playing God of the Gaps. Because we don't fully understand something, you attribute to "God". As we understand more and more, "God's" role decreases more and more. Not to mention "Which God".
Also, we are getting far afield. There is literally ZERO falsifiable, peer-reviewable data to suggest a Young Earth.
None. Zero. Zilch. There is no Science involved in that whatsoever. It stems entirely on a weird interpretation for people that want to believe the pages in a document "Written" by nomadic barely literate men that has been translated from multiple languages, some of them with thousands and thousands of fewer words than modern english.
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:54 pm to Fun Bunch
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There is literally ZERO falsifiable, peer-reviewable data to suggest a Young Earth.
None. Zero. Zilch. There is no Science involved in that whatsoever. It stems entirely on a weird interpretation for people that want to believe the pages in a document "Written" by nomadic barely literate men that has been translated from multiple languages, some of them with thousands and thousands of fewer words than modern english.
Soooo, you 're not a fan of the theory? I'm sorry your post is confusing.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:58 pm to Hester Carries
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Church of the Great Doof
Moronism
I like the great doof, kinda rolls off the tongue. This will actually make life a lot easier, you can tithe at whatever rate you want because God is kinda shitty at math. And he won't care about abortion or anything political cause it's over his head. He's just a cool, laid back deity that would be fun to have a beer with.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:01 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Soooo, you 're not a fan of the theory? I'm sorry your post is confusing
What's confusing about it?
There is nothing scientifically whatsoever to support Young Earth. It is ludicrous.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:02 pm to LucasP
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He's just a cool, laid back deity that would be fun to have a beer with.
And we are talking a shitty lite, domestic for sure.
We need CotGD sig pics.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:03 pm to Fun Bunch
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What's confusing about it? There is nothing scientifically whatsoever to support Young Earth. It is ludicrous.
The general tone of your post is confusing.
It insists upon itself.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:04 pm to SidewalkDawg
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It insists upon itself.
Like Westworld?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:04 pm to Fun Bunch
Well stated.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:07 pm to Honky Lips
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it takes millions of years just for the planet to form.
I'm not religious, but you claim that Planets are created in millions of years , who told you this?
Some dickjob in a lab coat,who got a bunch of his buddies to go along with his guesses, and the Grant Money came rolling in???? Is that really your proof??
Grant Money is the crack of Science and Research, a LOT of guesses pushed as facts to get that money
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:10 pm to stlslick
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I'm not religious, but you claim that Planets are created in millions of years , who told you this?
Some dickjob in a lab coat,who got a bunch of his buddies to go along with his guesses, and the Grant Money came rolling in???? Is that really your proof??
because we know HOW planets are formed, and thus we know how long that process takes. are you suggesting otherwise (with proof or "real" science)?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:12 pm to stlslick
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guesses
Even if this were true, it would be better than everything religion offers.
It isn't true.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:13 pm to stlslick
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Some dickjob in a lab coat,who got a bunch of his buddies to go along with his guesses
So your theory is that one guy guessed that the earth is old, and we just accept that.
No one ran any tests or anything and just took his word for it, huh?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:14 pm to Hester Carries
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We need CotGD sig pics.
To the fark board!!! Think they can make a God who spilled jelly on his robe like a doofus?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:20 pm to Honky Lips
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because we know HOW planets are formed, and thus we know how long that process takes. are you suggesting otherwise (with proof or "real" science)?
I think his point is "we" don't know. A scientist knows, but even a scientist got his information from a book that got it's information from another source. A lot of assumptions are made on assuming other assumptions are true.
To me, what is most interesting about this topic is the fact that there is nothing that has ever come into existence that didn't have a creator of some sort, but true "nothingness" has never been observed either. How do we know that there are not some things that simply "are?"
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:22 pm to BulldogXero
there's a lot of unknowns in the universe but we do know how planets are formed. its just not up for debate
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:25 pm to LucasP
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To the fark board!!! Think they can make a God who spilled jelly on his robe like a doofus?
How do you say "I am the lord, you're god" in Latin?
also it has to have the Kiwi on it
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:25 pm to BulldogXero
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A lot of assumptions are made on assuming other assumptions are true.
You know some of this stuff is tested, right?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:30 pm to Honky Lips
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there's a lot of unknowns in the universe but we do know how planets are formed. its just not up for debate
By and large yes, but there's still plenty of unknowns on planet formation - even within our own solar system. I'm certainly not a "young Earth" believer but just wanted to highlight that our understanding of planet formation, while firmly grounded, still has plenty of questions to answer.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:36 pm to DavidTheGnome
LINK
This is the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (follow up to it's Deep Field picture). Every singly blip of light is a galaxy with billions of stars within. They picked this part of the sky to look at because it didn't have much going on, and it's smaller than a 1 mm by 1 mm square of paper held at 1 meter away, and equal to roughly one thirteen-millionth of the total area of the sky.
Our solar system is one frickin star, in one frickin galaxy. I'm sorry but the universe was not created within 7 days for the sole purpose of humans worshiping someone/something. Our understanding of the universe is simply beyond that at this point, why cling on to past believes so firmly?
This is the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (follow up to it's Deep Field picture). Every singly blip of light is a galaxy with billions of stars within. They picked this part of the sky to look at because it didn't have much going on, and it's smaller than a 1 mm by 1 mm square of paper held at 1 meter away, and equal to roughly one thirteen-millionth of the total area of the sky.
Our solar system is one frickin star, in one frickin galaxy. I'm sorry but the universe was not created within 7 days for the sole purpose of humans worshiping someone/something. Our understanding of the universe is simply beyond that at this point, why cling on to past believes so firmly?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:57 pm to LucasP
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Dude, you suck at math, that equals 7 thousands years, not a billion or whatever. Subtract one for his day off and boom, the earth is 6,000 years old.
No, you suck at reading comprehension, similies & metaphors.
"A day to the Lord is LIKE a thousand years."
To be clear, it would be more like to humans it would be millions or billions of years , but to higher intelligence it would feel like only a few days.
Ever had a dream that felt like it was a week, but was only 8 hours? Or hit snooze 5 minutes & Dream for an hour? Then take that example & multiply it exponentionally for an infinite being.
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