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Any consensus on the reason for cutting with fentanyl?

Posted on 3/19/23 at 12:35 am
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 12:35 am
I’m certain it’s been touched upon, but might I bother any of you to offer any reasonable theories on why dealers are cutting your various choices of speed narcotics with fent? And unbeknownst to the customer, at that. Intentionally so.

As you all know well, the speeds and fentanyl net the consumer completely opposite effects. It’s like someone cutting your lortab (hydrocodone) with meth. It don’t make no sense damn it. Why the hell would allow the potential loss of return customers? I’m no expert, but that doesn’t strike me as a prudent business model.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 12:37 am
Posted by sammy762
Boise
Member since Apr 2016
571 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 12:40 am to
More addictive, keeps them coming back. Bit yea, less money in the end for them so it makes no sense.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 12:51 am to
Margins. The drug game is all about margins and profitability. Dealers don’t give a shite about people OD’ing.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:00 am to
If it’s merely about stretching the product out, ie cutting with a filler agent net more actual product to sale on these streets, well they’ve been doing that since the Stone Age. I mentioned the possible options, historically speaking. Lol.

So I can’t see it being put in there to bulk up your original stash. There’s easier and cheaper ways. Not to mention, less deadly. Some places they trying to pass laws that allow for murder charges to be brought against the dealer of they can prove that it came from a particular person, and that his product was the exact cause of death of the departed. In fact some places have that already. So there we have a very significant reason to avoid incorporating fent in your stuff. What justifies undertaking that serious added risk to an already risky business enterprise? I’m back to my original question I think.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 1:03 am
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:01 am to
I don’t really get it. You’re risking killing your customers.

On another note, I’ve had fentanyl once, in a hospital setting, and I’m not gonna lie, it was fricking amazing. Too amazing though. I can see why people would chase that high, unfortunately.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30090 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:06 am to
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I’m not gonna lie, it was fricking amazing. Too amazing though.

Lol yeah you know something that awesome is very bad news. Terrible.

I keep hearing it’s everywhere, and I’m like where? I’m looking but I’m not seeing. Kick your boy down a needle tip worth. That’s enough to kill Manhattan 5 times over. hogwash. You just gotta man up.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 1:16 am
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12458 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:28 am to
Fentanyl is cheaper and easier to get than some of the other drugs. They can lace a little fentanyl with powder and sell it for other things. The buyers get high and all is good. They put it in marijuana to get a bigger high. Addicts want the rush. Dealers want money. Simple
Posted by 7thWardTo314
Member since May 2017
1278 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:30 am to
As a drug dealer, you want your product to be as strong as possible for as cheap as possible. The low level dealers aren’t the ones cutting heroin with fentanyl or fentanyl analogs. It’s the folks that are selling kilos and those that are making fake pressed pills that are using a fent analog to make the pills and cut the dope.

Seen a poster talking about receiving medical fentanyl and let me tell you, medical Fent has nothing on real heroin, especially black tar or east coast drugs powder as far as the feelings of euphoria.


I hate fentanyl and fentanyl analogues. They have completely ruined the drug game. From fake percs and Roxie’s to weighing/ cutting coke on the same surfaces and cross contaminating. Don’t even get me started on cutting dope with tranquilizers smh. You can’t even get high these days without having someone around you with Narcan just in case.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
30090 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:46 am to
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You can’t even get high these days without having someone around you with Narcan just in case.

Yeah when they say “everyone knows someone who’s OD’d these days” it’s not an exaggeration as perhaps it’s been in the days of old. And what strikes me most is that the couple of now deceased individuals with whom I was familiar had been in the game pretty hard for quite some time. But I guess they trying to achieve prior highs by using a little more each time. Still though, we’re talking well above average tolerance levels on these particular folks.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:57 am to
Remember when people were just selling Crack everywhere?

I remember people calling it "cheese" for slang
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 1:58 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25617 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:59 am to
Most people will point to money, which is part of it but not the whole story.

Potent drugs like fentanyl are also a trafficker's dream since due to their potency they require much smaller volumes of drugs to be moved across borders. When 1/100th of the volume gives the same efficacy it makes their life easier.

While one might think even addicts would be actively avoiding fentanyl the hard core addicts actually seek it out because they get more bang for their buck at least initially.

But there is a new wave coming. Polysubstance use has been around forever (classic example is an 8 ball) the new "high" is fentanyl mixed with benzos. It is a whole other level of high and a whole other level of OD danger but hard core addicts are now seeking it out. I don't understand the mindset but benzodope and tranq are the next big thing on the streets. "Tranq" is Xylazine laced drugs.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7697 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:00 am to
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On another note, I’ve had fentanyl once, in a hospital setting, and I’m not gonna lie, it was fricking amazing.


The fentanyl in the hospital is not what's being sold on the street.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:18 am to
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Why the hell would allow the potential loss of return customers?

Addicts will always return...there is no loss.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7644 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 6:38 am to
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7thWardTo314

You need to get to rehab.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61902 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 6:51 am to
Fentanyl is a lot cheaper. And it’s in all drugs now. Fentanyl is not more addictive in fact most with substance abuse disorders don’t like it because even though the high is faster it wears off a lot faster
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61902 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:04 am to
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I’ve had fentanyl once, in a hospital setting, and I’m not gonna lie, it was fricking amazing.


It is great in the hospital setting for acute pain especially for long bone fractures. Use it all the time. Takes care of the pain and wears off by the time Ortho bro gets there so you can sign the consents.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18174 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:35 am to
They started out cutting it with shitty Mexican grown heroin. The Mexican grown poppy wasn’t strong enough so they boosted it with Fentanyl. Once the found out you could get super addicts game on.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15577 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:37 am to
Know a guy that died last week with a needle in his arm. Tough motorcycle rider, ex marine, he had done time and recently gotten clean.

He had leg surgery recently and started seeing a nurse that worked on him during the surgery. I don’t know if the surgery and the new girlfriend got him feeling invincible, but she came home from her night shift at 5 am and he was on her floor with a needle in his arm. Messy business.

The body has its limits. RIP.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4652 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:44 am to
Remember to keep your family and business completely separated, because money and blood don't mix. It's like two dicks and no bitch.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25735 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:39 am to
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are cutting your various choices of speed narcotics with fent?
They aren’t. It’s almost always cross contamination. No drug dealer wants his coke clients getting fentanyl in their blow.
Now mixing it with opiates/heroin is a different story.
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