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AccuWeather issues 90-day forecasts and meteorologists are not amused

Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:12 pm
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ability to throw more computer processing power at forecast models has substantially improved the ability of meteorologists to predict the weather. A recent analysis found that a modern five-day forecast is as accurate as three-day forecast was in 1995. In the last three decades, thanks largely to numerical weather prediction, the useful window of forecasting has moved out from about 7 days to 10 days.

Yet beyond 10 days, most meteorologists will say, there is little predictive skill. This is largely due to the "butterfly effect," in which only a very small change in initial conditions will have huge changes after about 10 days. However, in August of 2013, this basic mathematical principle didn't prevent AccuWeather from beginning to issue 45-day weather forecasts.

According to an analysis by the Capital Weather Gang, a widely respected site that forecasts conditions for around Washington DC, these 45-day forecasts showed no "skill" after about 10 days. "AccuWeather is a for-profit company and they have every right to pass off less-than-accurate forecasts as they wish, but the public deserves to know that these 45-day forecasts are not rooted in any science currently available to meteorologists and have not demonstrated value," the site concluded. "Caveat emptor."

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Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2131 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:16 pm to
Ok.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:21 pm to
All they do is stick on the average highs and lows and throw in rain occasionally to keep in line with averages. No skill involved.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:25 pm to
Can't do any worse than the locals. What was the chance of significant downpours Thursday, especially Thursday night? 90%. Barely a drop
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:25 pm to
They can't predict the fricking weather 3 days out, much less 90
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:29 pm to
Well that's one more thing I can agree with you on Tangerine. Local weather forecasters suck.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 1:31 pm to
I mean it's better than just throwing your arms in the air and saying "oh well"
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:01 pm to
Speaking as a numerical modeler. It is embarrassing what the weather industry passes off as physics based numerical models.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98730 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:07 pm to
Yet...we're supposed to completely upend Western Civilization and world economies for models predicting a single variable (temperature) 20, 50 and 100 years out?
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
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the public deserves to know that these 45-day forecasts are not rooted in any science currently available to meteorologists and have not demonstrated value


Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36114 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
so, all these people have to do is get it right 50% of the time and still get a pay check
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:33 pm to
I can give you a 90 day forecast for SE Louisiana covering June through August.

Hot and humid as Hell, occasional afternoon shower, chance of hurricane.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:50 pm to
weather forecasters = weather guessers.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18762 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:09 pm to
If you predict tomorrow's weather will the same as it is today, you'll be right most of the time.
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:25 pm to
Great post
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7342 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:26 pm to
Why aren't people bitching about the people who predict hurricane seasons then? Or how about climatologists predicting shite in 2050?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77964 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

What was the chance of significant downpours Thursday, especially Thursday night? 90%.


Well they weren't wrong. They didn't say 100% chance.
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