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Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:27 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Swat didnt save anyone's life but the murderer's.
they were dead when the cops showed up
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The cops on the the seen should have cleared the building.
they received fire and...not knowing how many were in the house and how heavily armed...they called in SWAT.
look...i know theres a lot of cop haters on this board but this is just a stupid argument. situations like this are exactly why there are SWAT teams. dude killes 8 people...5 kids..and y'all are already making the cops out to be the bad guys
ridiculousThis post was edited on 8/9/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:30 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Typical OT cop hater bullshite response. Police investigate something and shoot someone. Cops are bad. Shouldn't have been there.
Police don't push the guy. They should have gone in guns a blazing.
Just admit that, no matter what they do, you are going to criticize from the safety of your keyboard. Might as well pontificate about how they don't need SWAT or armored vehicles too.
Police don't push the guy. They should have gone in guns a blazing.
Just admit that, no matter what they do, you are going to criticize from the safety of your keyboard. Might as well pontificate about how they don't need SWAT or armored vehicles too.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:33 am to Choctaw
I'm not a cop hater, but did they know everyone was already dead? They get paid to dangerous shite. I don't like the idea of swat teams anyway. For situations like this they never get there on time and they end up only being used for drug warrants. It's a waste of money.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:35 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Stick to criticizing the military. At least you know something about that.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:35 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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but did they know everyone was already dead?
probably not...then you have a hostage situation.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:36 am to Choctaw
quote:Cops are not the bad guys. I misunderstood the original post and thought the police had backtracked after the gunman starting shooting victims.
dude killes 8 people...5 kids..and y'all are already making the cops out to be the bad guys
I think we all know (and are in agreement about) who the bad guy is here.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:53 am to GeauxxxTigers23
You make payments to the Houston police department?
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:55 am to Paige
I'm sure they get plenty of grants from the federal governemnt specifically for swat teams in the name of counter terrorism, so yeah, probably.
Not sure what your point is anyway
Not sure what your point is anyway
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:56 am to Patrick_Bateman
No. You didn't read the post at all and just started talking shite on the cops. Then got called out
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:59 am to GeauxxxTigers23
You didn't criticize swat. You criticized the regular cops and asked what you pay them for
I don't see where they didn't do their job
I don't see where they didn't do their job
Posted on 8/9/15 at 9:59 am to WillieD
Which part of Houston was this in?
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:03 am to Paige
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You didn't criticize swat. You criticized the regular cops and asked what you pay them for
I don't see where they didn't do their job
Well if they didn't have swat as a crutch they probably would've gone in. Look, I know it's a dangerous thing to ask them to do, and it probably wouldn't have helped in this situation anyway other than they would have ended up killing this a-hole and we wouldn't have to spend money on his trial and a lifetime of incarceration. But I bet there are hundreds of similar situations each year where if the beat cops would have taken the risk and gone in instead of waiting for swat they could have saved some lives.
I'd rather the money spent on swat be spent on more training for regular cops.
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:04 am to GRTiger
NW Harris County
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:05 am to GeauxxxTigers23
A swaf team is absolutely necessary for this situation. A group of 4 patrol cops is just going to go in and seriously frick something up. They don't really have training for that sort of thing. And you need to act so perfectly you need a highly trained tactical unit that has been trained, is experienced working togeather, and has the right tools for the situation.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:07 am to athenslife101
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A swaf team is absolutely necessary for this situation. A group of 4 patrol cops is just going to go in and seriously frick something up. They don't really have training for that sort of thing. And you need to act so perfectly you need a highly trained tactical unit that has been trained, is experienced working togeather, and has the right tools for the situation.
Swat teams frick up all the time. And yeah, a highly experienced unit with experience working together is ideal, but in situations like this it's almost always better to go in quickly rather than wait for the ideal.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:14 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Is there any evidence anyone was alive other than the murderer? I don't understand why people want the cops to just rush into a home. It makes sense in a school or mall but in a small structure there is little chance lives are saved by rushing in. It's why prior to columbine cops were always told to wait on back up.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:15 am to C
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Is there any evidence anyone was alive other than the murderer?
Was there any evidence they were all dead?
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:19 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Are you stupid or something?
Cops look through window, see a body on the floor. Cops try to go in and gunman starts shooting at them. Cops call in SWAT to deal with the situation. SWAT shows up, gunman surrenders. After house is cleared the cops discover 8 dead in the house.
How hard is that to understand?
Cops look through window, see a body on the floor. Cops try to go in and gunman starts shooting at them. Cops call in SWAT to deal with the situation. SWAT shows up, gunman surrenders. After house is cleared the cops discover 8 dead in the house.
How hard is that to understand?
Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:23 am to supatigah
I understand it. But IMO they had evidence that he was obviously dangerous and willing to kill. I know it's risky, but I think you gotta press on and get the guy. Basically I'm asking them to put the lives of the citizens over their own lives.
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