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re: 48 more bikers indicted in deadly shootout at Waco, Texas, Twin Peaks
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:55 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:55 pm to terd ferguson
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So I guess the 10 or so hoodlums that were involved had about 48 weapons each
Having a weapon in you does not constitute a crime. Anywhere I go, I've got my pistol, pocket knife, and wallet with chain. By the standards of what the Waco cops used that day. I usually have 3 weapons on me at anytime.
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:55 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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So far over 150 of them. I'm sure there are a dozen or so they have already vetted and determined they were not involved.
My personal opinion is even if you were tangentially involved you catch charges.
Coming from the person that's OK with locking up innocent people, I don't see how arresting and indicting everyone would trouble you. As long as they get the murders, it's OK. Right?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:56 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I was thinking this was a DV thread but then I see its anti biker
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:56 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
So what's the real endgame here?
It's not to send 150+ guys up the river for the Twin Peaks thing so are prosecutors hoping to put the squeeze on to get information on other activities, people higher up in the food chain?
It's not to send 150+ guys up the river for the Twin Peaks thing so are prosecutors hoping to put the squeeze on to get information on other activities, people higher up in the food chain?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:59 pm to Walking the Earth
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So what's the real endgame here?
Convictions. The more people arrested, the more you're "fighting crime".
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Coming from the person that's OK with locking up innocent people, I don't see how arresting and indicting everyone would trouble you. As long as they get the murders, it's OK. Right?
And to tell you how big of a joke these indictments are, in the first batch of 100 or so the procescutor mistakenly put them all down on 10 murder charges when only 9 people died (most shot by the cops btw). They had to go back and redo them. Says a a lot about a process when a prosecutor can get people indicted for a murder that never even happened.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:00 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Someone clearly forgot to take off their jacket before doing something illegal.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:05 pm to Darth_Vader
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You've seen the clear video proof that the vast majority of these people had nothing to do with the fight and did nothing other than take cover when it started. Yet you still keep up your bullshite trolling. Course I should not be surprised seeing how in the last Waco thread you stated you were perfectly fine with innocent people going to prison if it meant a guilty person didn't go free. Anyone who's even halfway followed the Waco story knows what's happening there is a prosecutor gone wild, shitting on the rule of law and the constitution in the process. Yes, there were bikers there that day who should be prosecuted, but nowhere near 170 of them.
basically 90% of bikers are only tough for show. They come to fight strapped up but run scared when the fight is brought to them.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:07 pm to Walking the Earth
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So what's the real endgame here?
It's not to send 150+ guys up the river for the Twin Peaks thing so are prosecutors hoping to put the squeeze on to get information on other activities, people higher up in the food chain
One simple word... RICO. Namely RICO against the Bandido motorcycle club. This whole process started long before Tein Peaks ever happened. The Feds and Texas started a operation to take down the Bandidos named "Operation Texas Rocker". This was about the same time the cops infiltrated a long standing small Texas club called the Cossacks. After the cops infiltrated this club it all of a sudden started doing things like trying to claim territory by wearing a Texas bottom rocker and instigating confrontations with the Bandidos. The final phase of this operation was Twin Peaks. That's the day the cops sent the the club they'd infiltrated to start a fight with the Bandidos. The cops even set up cameras to catch it hours before. The goal was to catch the fight on tape and use that as evidence against the Bandidos. Only problem was things got out of hand. The Cossacks started the fight but then started shooting people. That's when the cops, already in position, opened fire and the situation got out of control.
What's going to happen next is all these cases will be handed over to the Feds for RICO charges on everyone, the Bandidos, the Cossacks, and all the rest. The Cossacks have served their purpose so now they're being thrown to the wolves.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:11 pm to terd ferguson
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Even at 170 people that's still nearly 3 weapons per person.
If I'm going down, I don't want it to be for lack of shooting back either.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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Having a weapon in you does not constitute a crime. Anywhere I go, I've got my pistol, pocket knife, and wallet with chain. By the standards of what the Waco cops used that day. I usually have 3 weapons on me at anytime.
If you have those instruments on you during the commission of a crime it is an add on charge.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:13 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:What additional charge?
If you have those instruments on you during the commission of a crime it is an add on charge.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:13 pm to Walking the Earth
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So what's the real endgame here?
It's not to send 150+ guys up the river for the Twin Peaks thing so are prosecutors hoping to put the squeeze on to get information on other activities, people higher up in the food chain?
The endgame is the elimination of the criminal element whether it be MCs, MS13, ISIS, etc. They are all fundamentally the same. Eradication is the o my appropriate measure. Since law enforcement cannot get them a at once I would say 150+ a pop is excellent. They are using their CIs effectively.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:14 pm to terd ferguson
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So I guess the 10 or so hoodlums that were involved had about 48 weapons each.
lol.
all i can think of is some of them were strapped like 'that guy'.
plus most bikers, not sabi, are fat and have big jackets to store more weapons
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:14 pm to Dire Wolf
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basically 90% of bikers are only tough for show. They come to fight strapped up but run scared when the fight is brought to them.
Exactly but they want to live that lifestyle they can suffer the Consequences and serve the jail time.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:15 pm to Darth_Vader
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Anywhere I go, I've got my pistol, pocket knife, and wallet with chain.
is this considered a weapon?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:17 pm to Jones
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is this considered a weapon?
when you got that DV long money
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:17 pm to Darth_Vader
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What's going to happen next is all these cases will be handed over to the Feds for RICO charges on everyone, the Bandidos, the Cossacks, and all the rest.
All of which are completely warranted and justified with mounds of evidence.
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The goal was to catch the fight on tape and use that as evidence against the Bandidos. Only problem was things got out of hand. The Cossacks started the fight but then started shooting people. That's when the cops, already in position, opened fire and the situation got out of control.
The police diffused an extremely volatile situation with proportional force and discretion. The fact zero officers lost their lives that day is a testament to their training and development of CIs.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:19 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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What additional charge?
Depends on your location but how about possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony. Or aggravated assault with a firearm (I believe in LA it's a misdemeanor unless they can prove discharge which upgrades it to a felony.).
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:22 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Link those statutes. I want to be sure not to run afoul of the law.
ETA: Never realized I could get hit with an add-on charge for carrying a pocket knife while committing a crime. Going to need confirmation of that from our resident legal scholar.
ETA: Never realized I could get hit with an add-on charge for carrying a pocket knife while committing a crime. Going to need confirmation of that from our resident legal scholar.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 2:27 pm
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