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re: 35 Practical Steps Men Can Take To Support Feminism
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I think you only have to meet at least one of two criteria to be a flight attendant: 1) Have a vagina and/or 2) Like penis.
No gender restrictions, though.
No gender restrictions, though.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
How are they "more qualified"?
I have a guy friend who just got hired as one after years of applying and he has been more than qualified. Degree in hospitality management, several years of cocktail serving, casino hosting, etc.
No reason a female with no customer service experience should be hired over him.
ETA: He's not gay. Or at least doesn't act gay and definitely is not openly gay. Dates women.
I have a guy friend who just got hired as one after years of applying and he has been more than qualified. Degree in hospitality management, several years of cocktail serving, casino hosting, etc.
No reason a female with no customer service experience should be hired over him.
ETA: He's not gay. Or at least doesn't act gay and definitely is not openly gay. Dates women.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:15 pm to LouisianaLady
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I do agree with this.
Examples of unfair social things to men:
A man can't play with kids/babysit/etc. without being treated like a pedophile. I've heard countless stories of men being treated poorly for taking their 3 year old niece to the park and playing with her and the other kids.
Men are often told to "man up" and not to show any emotion. They are expected to be solid and emotionless. Some women even go as far as to leave these men.
Men are automatically restrained (and often arrested) in domestic violence causes even when they themselves are the ones who called the police.
Men are expected to make money and support a woman.
The issue is not one of man versus woman or one of sexism. The issue is that gender roles are ingrained in society and have been over millennia. What you say is the truth LouisianaLady and there is a middle ground to be reached as certainly men and women are treated differently in America.
But the truth is, it shouldn't be that men and women be treated the same, but that men and women be treated in a way that doesn't stymie societal growth, productivity, and innovation. For example, if the woman has a better opportunity for earning capacity (which is often the truth as more women are graduating college than men now and more women are earning secondary degrees than men as well), it should be perfectly acceptable for the man to work from home, be a stay at home dad, or take a less rigorous job in order to provide care for his children. But men that do this are viewed as failures by most people in society and have difficulty forming social groups and connections.
So what happens? The man works at some menial job so that he can "bring home the bacon," while his over-educated wife sits at home with the babies. Is that truly what's best for America? Perhaps for some people who view the 1950s as the ideal time period in American history and believe we should all strive to return to it, but for those of us that live in reality, it is certainly a backwards way of thinking.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:15 pm to LouisianaLady
A place I worked for had our top boss who is a female (and lesbian) start to demand they hired more females in higher positions and "diversify". Problem was that they were turning down much more qualified men to allow completely unqualified females to take the position. This was all in a male dominated job for a very good reason.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:16 pm to GRTiger
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I think you only have to meet at least one of two criteria to be a flight attendant: 1) Have a vagina and/or 2) Like penis.
No gender restrictions, though.
In my perfect world there would be weight restrictions and married or pregnant women would be disqualified.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:17 pm to LouisianaLady
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I have a guy friend who just got hired as one after years of applying and he has been more than qualified. Degree in hospitality management, several years of cocktail serving, casino hosting, etc.
No airline pilot wants to frick your gay friend on an overnight in a strange hotel.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:17 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
based on what exactly? women might make better jockeys than men on average (since they are smaller) but men seem perfectly capable of being flight attendants.
I would think men would be better fire fighters assuming the job might call for carrying someone out of a burning building - but there are some smaller Sonny Bono type men and some big Brienne of Tarth type women so that's just a generalization as well. There's generally a bell curve when it comes to these types of physical characteristics
I would think men would be better fire fighters assuming the job might call for carrying someone out of a burning building - but there are some smaller Sonny Bono type men and some big Brienne of Tarth type women so that's just a generalization as well. There's generally a bell curve when it comes to these types of physical characteristics
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:18 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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weight restrictions and married or pregnant women would be disqualified
those are other casualties of the "equality" boom
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:18 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
No airline pilot wants to frick your gay friend on an overnight in a strange hotel.
Okay, you have no place in this conversation.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:18 pm to More beer please
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Problem was that they were turning down much more qualified men to allow completely unqualified females to take the position. This was all in a male dominated job for a very good reason.
This is the problem with all diversity and affirmative action type initiatives. At some point, you have to choose based on the merits. I actually prefer blind hiring practices as a result, but truly blind practices are impossible to institute.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:18 pm to LouisianaLady
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We just had a thread on this the other day and plenty of posters said that they themselves have sex with girls on the first date if the girls are down, but they won't date the girl.
My question was: Are you calling yourself undateable? Because you're calling this girl undateable for fricking you early on.. but you fricked her too. Does that mean no one should date you either?
Many guys who have casual sex still consider themselves worthy of dating, but don't consider their female counterparts worthy of dating.
Because men and women are different. Sorry, but it's the truth. Women control the sexual market place. Women that give up sex too freely are lowering the sexual marketplace value for other women. That's why saying that a guy that bangs a lot is the same as a woman that bangs a lot is a false statement. The correct correlation is a man giving away resources to women too freely.
Also, a man valuing a woman that has not had sex with many(EDIT) men makes sense from a marriage perspective. Studies indicate that the changes of infidelity and divorce escalate in direct correlation to the number of men that a woman had sex with prior to marriage.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:18 pm to molsusports
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molsusports
He wasn't being serious. I thought he was too. Ugh. Stupid internet.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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No airline pilot wants to frick your gay friend on an overnight in a strange hotel.
I'm sure there are a few. Pilots seem like weirdos.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:20 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:More qualified? Probably not.
How are they "more qualified"?
I have a guy friend who just got hired as one after years of applying and he has been more than qualified. Degree in hospitality management, several years of cocktail serving, casino hosting, etc.
No reason a female with no customer service experience should be hired over him.
ETA: He's not gay. Or at least doesn't act gay and definitely is not openly gay. Dates women.
Passenger expectation is probably to have a female flight attendant. Men generally don't want to look at a male flight attendant when hurdling through space and time in an aluminum tube that is powered on hocus pocus and rainbow dust.
ETA: The point is, a female in that role is comforting.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:21 pm to LouisianaLady
Why do you think I'm not being serious. I didn't say your friend wasn't capable of giving me a bag of peanuts and half a can of coke. I'm just saying the airlines would be a more enjoyable experience for all if they had attractive women as stewardesses as opposed to gay dudes. You may think it wouldn't make a difference to you, but subconsciously, it does.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:22 pm to LoveThatMoney
I was pissed bc I sat in on the interviews. One of the major requirements was to have worked there for a year in a very specific area in order to be promoted to the position. Instead of hiring those who were qualified, they took newly hired women to take a role over men who were more qualified and had been there longer. All of this was because our boss at the time was pushed to put more women in the position.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:22 pm to The Sad Banana
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Men generally don't want to look at a male flight attendant when hurdling through space and time
Riiiiight.
Kinda not the point..?
And women shouldn't be pilots (which he also said) because men would be uncomfortable with a woman doing so?
Kinda proving my point here
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:23 pm to LouisianaLady
There are some planes that the FAA won't allow an all female cockpit crew because they don't have the strength to hold the rudder down all the way in an engine failure scenario.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:23 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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. I'm just saying the airlines would be a more enjoyable experience for all if they had attractive women as stewardesses as opposed to gay dudes.
You are literally too far off from the great conversation that was happening in this thread to even bother.
I've never seen someone miss a point so badly in my life.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:23 pm to LouisianaLady
Why shouldn't females be pilots?
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