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2nd Starship Orbital Flight Test Approved
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:17 pm
Space.com
Let's go boys.
Let's go boys.
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The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) announced today (Nov. 15) that it has granted a license for the second launch of Starship, SpaceX's next-generation space transportation system.
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The liftoff is set to occur Friday (Nov. 17) from Starbase, a SpaceX facility in South Texas, during a two-hour window that opens at 8 a.m. EST (1300 GMT; 7 a.m. local time in Texas).
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:19 pm to jcaz
My body is ready.
Can’t wait to see if the hot staging ring works and water deluge system holds up. Anything past stage separation without massive damage to the pad will be a huge success.
Can’t wait to see if the hot staging ring works and water deluge system holds up. Anything past stage separation without massive damage to the pad will be a huge success.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:22 pm to GeneralLee
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Can’t wait to see if the hot staging ring works and water deluge system holds up. Anything past stage separation without massive damage to the pad will be a huge success.
I'm confident the steel pad and water deluge will protect the raptors and pad since static fire went well with it.
I also think the change from hydraulic motors to electric ones is a big change for the better. Staging is gonna be interesting. Hope the Starship raptors don't blow up the booster.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:25 pm to jcaz
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:27 pm to jcaz
The change in staging is interesting. They actually changed the early Falcon staging because of a failure. Wonder why they’ve changed it back on Starship.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:30 pm to jcaz
Hopefully this won't be a repeat of the 86' disaster
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:44 pm to letsgobowling110599
Remember... this is a test vehicle and... more importantly... a SpaceX test vehicle
In the immortal words of Adam Savage from the Mythbusters... "failure is always an option"
In the immortal words of Adam Savage from the Mythbusters... "failure is always an option"
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:44 pm to jcaz
Hopefully the weather and equipment cooperates. Should be a fun show.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:45 pm to jcaz
My biggest concern is Raptor engine reliability. I think they need 29 or 30 out of 33 engines to be working to reach orbit.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:46 pm to GeneralLee
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My biggest concern is Raptor engine reliability.
So is Fords
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:47 pm to jcaz
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2nd Starship Orbital Flight Test Approved
Sorry to ummm ackshually you OP...
This flight is not an orbital flight... the flight profile will never take it into orbit... even if everything goes right and it splashes down by Hawaii
It stays suborbital the entire time
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:47 pm to kywildcatfanone
Ready to watch.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:54 pm to jcaz
I think success is going to be to get to stage separation under control and with no damage to the pad. If those two things are accomplished then any other problem can be solved with time, but they need to show that they can get past where the got last time.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 4:59 pm to TigerV
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I think success is going to be to get to stage separation under control and with no damage to the pad. If those two things are accomplished then any other problem can be solved with time, but they need to show that they can get past where the got last time.
Correct. They will also attempt a "soft" landing of the first stage in the GOM. As far as the starship, I've heard conflicting information as to if they will full on splash or have a controlled splash. The heat tile system will be tested, the hot staging ring, and the Raptors have a pre cooler now.
If they can pull it off without some of the same issues they had on the first one, Musk plans another as soon as December.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:33 pm to GeneralLee
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My biggest concern is Raptor engine reliability. I think they need 29 or 30 out of 33 engines to be working to reach orbit.
Yeah and they lost at least 6 last flight. Although most of them may have been pad damage related. No idea how many being lost during ascent will result in failure but I’m sure the redundancy is why there are so many raptors.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:38 pm to Btrtigerfan
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As far as the starship, I've heard conflicting information as to if they will full on splash or have a controlled splash
Last I saw they were expecting it to not survive reentry. If they can get some data on reentry though that will be massive going forward.
I wouldn’t doubt if they put Starlink V2 in the next launch. Make the lower stage expendable as a test but still deliver a payload. That’s what they did with F9 for awhile
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:49 pm to jcaz
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Last I saw they were expecting it to not survive reentry. If they can get some data on reentry though that will be massive going forward.
I wouldn’t doubt if they put Starlink V2 in the next launch. Make the lower stage expendable as a test but still deliver a payload. That’s what they did with F9 for awhile
3 things I think SpaceX wants to see from this launch
-Affect of the new deluge system on preventing damage to OLM and underside of booster
-Hot staging and can it get a clean separation
-Reentry and how the heat tiles will hold up
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:12 am to jcaz
Time to kick the tires and light the fires
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:15 am to jcaz
What about the seals’ reactions to sonic booms though?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:12 am to Oilfieldbiology
I am hoping the Space X feed will have onboard cameras operational through out the flight. Would be incredible to watch things un fold and see splashdown of both stages. Anyone see what the full duration of the flight is supposed to be?
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