- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: 20 year old sex abuse victim in Holland euthanized
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:33 pm to BamaCoaster
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:33 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
It makes sense. Maybe not to you, but to her
Something that "makes sense" to someone mentally ill doesn't necessarily need to be supported by others.
1
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:34 pm to lsunurse
quote:
Except her family that has to mourn her senseless death.
who gives a shite? That girl doesn't owe anybody anything. Least of all her fricking family. If her family feels otherwise than they're selfish. Rest in fricking peace, you poor abused soul. Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:35 pm to lsunurse
quote:
Something that "makes sense" to someone mentally ill doesn't necessarily need to be supported by others.
Good point, but the fact remains that there is free will in this world. And if someone chooses to do something that harms no one but themselves, we as a society should let them be.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:36 pm to Darth_Vader
It's more selfish for us to force someone in that much agony to live to spare their loved ones the grief of loss. I never understood it, but years of watching my ex-H deteriorate and not want to live started to change my mind.
We expect people to never give up and always keep fighting, even when they feel worse than dead inside. It's awful all around, but like someone else said, I would rather this than committing suicide & leaving your body for loved ones to find.
We expect people to never give up and always keep fighting, even when they feel worse than dead inside. It's awful all around, but like someone else said, I would rather this than committing suicide & leaving your body for loved ones to find.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:38 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
I have no problem with this.
quote:
In her decision, was anybody harmed? If people chose not to continue life, why not let them be?
By all measures, she was not in good psychological standing. Makes you question how much of the decision was truly hers.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:39 pm to Darth_Vader
Her life, her decision.
Says she had been suffering for years and was anorexic and bedridden. Nobody has the right to force her to continue to endure that.
Says she had been suffering for years and was anorexic and bedridden. Nobody has the right to force her to continue to endure that.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:41 pm to Black n Gold
quote:
By all measures, she was not in good psychological standing. Makes you question how much of the decision was truly hers.
Exactly.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:42 pm to Stacked
quote:
who gives a shite? That girl doesn't owe anybody anything. Least of all her fricking family. If her family feels otherwise than they're selfish. Rest in fricking peace, you poor abused soul.
Yikes.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:42 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Good point, but the fact remains that there is free will in this world. And if someone chooses to do something that harms no one but themselves, we as a society should let them be.
So the mentally ill should be given the right to decide to end their life? What happens if their so mentally ill they can't make the decision for themselves and their doctors, as in this case, all agree there's no hope for a cure? Can the doctors decide for them?
I ask these questions because this is a very serious matter. And while from an emotional standpoint it can look best to allow people to do what they want, it also opens a very dangerous door. And this is a door that's been opened in the past. It's first steps were the mercy killings of severely disabled children, the last steps ended at the ovens of places like Treblinka and Auschwitz.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:42 pm to Darth_Vader
The problem is there could have been a chance, somewhere, but death is incurable.
And this..
Is the disturbing part.
And this..
quote:
doctors and psychiatrists decided that her post-traumatic stress disorder and other conditions were incurable.
Is the disturbing part.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:43 pm to Darth_Vader
She was depressed and had mood swings. Aren't most women ages 12-death suffering from those symptoms?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:45 pm to Freauxzen
quote:
doctors and psychiatrists decided that her post-traumatic stress disorder and other conditions were incurable. Is the disturbing part.
Exactly. Like I just posted, they are opening a very dangerous door that history has proven should forever remain closed.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:47 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
It's first steps were the mercy killings of severely disabled children, the last steps ended at the ovens of places like Treblinka and Auschwitz.
Bring up the Nazis in a retort to euthanasia? Get the frick out of here......
If someone wants to end their life, we should allow them. Simple as that. It's not like the process is: "OK. You want to end your life. Go ahead".
There are steps, and it usually takes months to get the lethal injections. Docs tried, her family tried....what more would you like them to have done?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:48 pm to Freauxzen
quote:
doctors and psychiatrists decided that her post-traumatic stress disorder and other conditions were incurable
Well it is incurable with socialist medicine. If it costs x and x < y? Curable. x > y? Incurable.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:49 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
If someone wants to end their life, we should allow them.
When your 13 year old daughter gets sad and wants to kill herself... Go for it?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:50 pm to terd ferguson
quote:
frick it... just let everybody do whatever the frick they wanna do.
This is becoming my attitude more and more. As long as you aren't harming others, I just don't give a frick what you do.
You want to ruin your life with meth, go for it. You want to be gay/straight/bi/transgendered, that's great. Everyone 18 and over should be allowed to make their own decisions, if she didn't want to live then that's her call. Sucks for her family, but at least this way they were able to be prepared.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:51 pm to Artie Rome
quote:
When your 13 year old daughter gets sad and wants to kill herself... Go for it?
Yep. Exact same situation.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:53 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Bring up the Nazis in a retort to euthanasia? Get the frick out of here......
Are you not aware that the Holocaust started out as a euthanasia program? It started with disabled babies and children first. Next came the mentally ill and the elderly. I suggest you study history before you decide there is no danger in euthanasia.
Action T4
quote:
If someone wants to end their life, we should allow them. Simple as that. It's not like the process is: "OK. You want to end your life. Go ahead". There are steps, and it usually takes months to get the lethal injections. Docs tried, her family tried....what more would you like them to have done?
If someone wants to end their life, that's their right. The danger though is that we're involving doctors in not just the implementation process but also the process of deciding to end the person's life. I understand doctors on a daily basis have to decide when to end care of someone who is dying. But to give anyone the power to decide someone who is otherwise not dying should die, that's where we can go off the deep end to something truly horrifying.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:53 pm to rpg37
quote:
For doctors to go on record and say, "There is no hope," is frightening and repulsive.
Then you oppose taking terminal patients off of life support?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:54 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Yep. Exact same situation.
Show me how it is different.
We aren't talking about an 80 year old. You explain to me how a 20 year old mind riddled with abuse is in any better situation that a 13 year old to make this decision.
Page 2 of 13
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News