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re: 2 Officers shot in Ferguson...Video in OP
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:37 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:37 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:
What do the statistics say?
Don't know, don't care enough to go look it up. Do I know for a fact that there are racist cops in north county? Yes I do. Do I think that racism is the reason for every arrest in north county? Obviously not.
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:39 pm to stlslick
You must be black and lived in Ferguson 6 months prior to the riots. No ringers you hard legging mofo 
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:39 pm to texashorn
quote:
I'm sorry, dude, but re: expanding the STL County Police jurisdiction to take over "many municipalities"... do you think those high training and hiring standards and flush bank accounts are going to continue with a greatly expanded mission?
You've hit the nail on the head here. The problem will be whether or not the rest of us with money in STL County are willing to flip the bill for more cops etc. Obviously, the cities that currently utilize the County PD contract it out and that helps defray some of the added costs to the County, but you're 100% right on with this point.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:41 pm to stlslick
quote:
No one has forgotten about what Nixon/Holder/Obama did, with the orders to let it burn.
What a political clusterfrick that was. County pissing on the City. City pissing on the County. State pissing on the County. County pissing on the State. And the FPD just trying to lay low and out of the scene.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:42 pm to reedus23
Did Ferguson police officers perform illegal stops beyond the norm (for lack of a better term), compared to other departments? I just see vague references to Ferguson illegal stops, but no hard number.
I did try to find hard numbers in the Justice Dept. report, linked here, but the only justification for "illegal stops" was that they stopped too many of a certain race, not that they detained people for absolutely nothing.
I did try to find hard numbers in the Justice Dept. report, linked here, but the only justification for "illegal stops" was that they stopped too many of a certain race, not that they detained people for absolutely nothing.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:44 pm to reedus23
So what? White people just fricked everyone?
What the hell is your end game?
What the hell is your end game?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:45 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:46 pm to texashorn
Check out this horseshite. They don't have data on pedestrian stops, but "he said, she said" is enough to implicate an entire police force. Fishy.
quote:
Concerns Regarding Pedestrian Stops
Although available data
enables an assessment of the disparate impact of many FPD
practices, many other practices cannot be assessed statistically because of FPD’s inadequate data
collection. FPD does not reliably collect or track data regarding pedestrian stops, or FPD
officer
s
’
conduct during those stops. Given this lack of data, we are unable to determine whether
African Americans are disproportionately the subjects of pedestrian stops, or the rate of searches,
arrests, or other post
-
pedestrian stop outcomes. We note, howev
er, that during our investigation
we have spoken with not only black community members who have been stopped by FPD
officers, but also
non
-
black community members and
employees of local businesses who have
observed FPD conduct pedestrian stops of others, a
ll of whom universally report that pedestrian
stops in Ferguson almost always involve African
-
American youth.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:47 pm to texashorn
Without going back and re-reading the whole thing and just looking at the table of contents, I would imagine that the entirety of Section A would apply to anyone regardless of race. Section B if I remember correctly as well, except that deals with the courts. Section C, if I remember correctly, specifically addresses what everyone here seems to be up in arms about and seem to think is the part that I'm most concerned about.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:48 pm to texashorn
quote:
FPD must fundamentally change the way it conducts
stops
and
searches, issues ci
tations and
summonses, and makes arrests. FPD officers must be trained and required to abide by the law.
In addition, FPD enforcement efforts should be reoriented so that officers are required to take
enforcement action beca
use it promotes public safety, not simply because they have legal
authority to act.
Wow, so if no one or no thing is in imminent danger, then the Justice Dept. recommends that Ferguson police officers simply ignore it.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:48 pm to MrLarson
quote:
So what? White people just fricked everyone?
What the hell is your end game?
I ain't choosy. I'll frick just about anyone with 2 tits and a vag.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:49 pm to texashorn
Yes, they even went back to look at emails from 2005, to try and nail the Ferguson PD
i called it extortion and blackmail by DOJ, immediately, still believe that's what it is.
Many months ago, DOJ/black politicians thought they had a deal, and Jackson would step down. He said FU, and today we have the DOJ Ferguson report. Holders revenge.
i called it extortion and blackmail by DOJ, immediately, still believe that's what it is.
Many months ago, DOJ/black politicians thought they had a deal, and Jackson would step down. He said FU, and today we have the DOJ Ferguson report. Holders revenge.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:50 pm to reedus23
quote:
Don't know, don't care enough to go look it up.
At least you're willing to admit that.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:53 pm to texashorn
quote:
Even relatively routine misconduct
by Ferguson police officers
can have significa
nt
consequences for the people whose rights are violated.
For
example, in
the summer of
2012,
a
32
-
year
-
old African
-
American man
sat in his car cooling off
after
playing
basketball
in a
Ferguson public
park.
An officer pulled up behind the man’s car, blo
cking him in,
and
demanded
the man’s Social Security number and
identification. Without any cause, t
he officer
accuse
d
the man of being a pedophile,
referring to the presence of children in the park, and
order
ed
the man out of his car for a pat
-
down, alth
ough the officer had no reason to believe the
man was armed. The
officer also asked to search the man’s car.
T
he man objected
, c
iting his
constitutional rights
. In response, the officer
arrested the man
, reportedly
at gunpoint, charging
him
with eight
v
iolations
of Ferguson’s municipal code
REPORTEDLY at gunpoint? You mean, that's what the man claimed? (Forgive the formatting, but wow, that's some flimsy shite. Nothing about "records show.")
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:54 pm to reedus23
quote:
I ain't choosy. I'll frick just about anyone with 2 tits and a vag.
Nice dumbass answer. Thanks for revelling your true self.
#handsupsontshoot
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:54 pm to reedus23
quote:
I ain't choosy. I'll frick just about anyone with 2 tits and a vag.
Hold up, careful now!!
I hear Bruce Jenner will be available soon!!
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:55 pm to texashorn
quote:
Most strikingly, t
he court
issues municipal arrest warrants not on the basis of public
safety needs, but rather as a routine response to missed court appearances and required fine
payments.
WELL NO shite! The feds think the routine response to missed court appearances and required fine payments should be absolutely nothing.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:57 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
texashorn
the Ferguson report, it's Holders revenge.
the Ferguson report, it's Holders revenge.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:00 pm to stlslick
Well, it definitely fits the Obama/Holder M.O. of not enforcing the law when it affects certain Democrat constituencies.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:02 pm to MrLarson
quote:
Nice dumbass answer. Thanks for revelling your true self.
Revealing. Though I do revel in myself as well.
Your glass is empty. Better get in your car and drive down to the liquor store.
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