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Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:22 pm to Rouge
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charges and consequences of actions? probably not
The kid obviously has mental issues, and combining that with the age, I seriously doubt would pass any sort of fitness assessment.
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understanding the concept of killing another human? you bet I believe 11 year old kids understand death
That isn't enough.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:22 pm to Jcorye1
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Do you really think an eleven year old is capable of understanding the breadth of what they did and the charges against them?
Unfortunately, I have no faith in our system to monitor this young girl if she was to be set free at 18.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:24 pm to Jcorye1
quote:after the beating, the child brought the baby back downstairs and had enough capacity to wake her mother up in the middle of the night
Jcorye1
that shows me that she understood that it went too far
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:24 pm to Black n Gold
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Unfortunately, I have no faith in our system to monitor this young girl if she was to be set free at 18.
Unfortunately I agree with this assessment. That being said, I doubt this kid would ever see a day outside of a mental institution, and I don't think they should.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:27 pm to Rouge
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that shows me that she understood that it went too far
That isn't enough to be fit to go to trial. Do you think a 5th grader, and one as mentally unstable as this, understands what a verdict is? What a jury is responsible for, how a judge is supposed to act during a trial? How would a lawyer begin to explain different situations and tactics to an 11 year old?
Don't misconstrue my opinion that this kid should be allowed to be integrated back into society. There are obviously massive issues there.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:28 pm to FenrirTheBeard
This story is fricked up, but this
and this
give it a bit of a Gotham feel.
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Chief Ice
and this
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Dollar Bank
give it a bit of a Gotham feel.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:30 pm to Jcorye1
quote:I am not discussing fit for trial
That isn't enough to be fit to go to trial.
I am discussing mental capacity to knowingly commit such a crime
her timeline go a ways towards displaying that she understood both her actions and the severity of those actions
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:32 pm to Rouge
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I am discussing mental capacity to knowing commit such a crime
Maybe? I honestly don't know. If you're talking about a true Bundy style sociopath, at that age are they capable of processing what they did is one of the most horrible things on the planet? I doubt it, they just know it's "wrong".
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:32 pm to FenrirTheBeard
stupid breeds stupid
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:40 pm to Jcorye1
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Jcorye1
Agree with pretty much everything you've said ITT.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:44 pm to Jcorye1
I appreciate the back and forth, but I think we might still be going to the same place.
this is a horrible act. Hurting a child, even if by another child, is a situation where rehabilitation is likely not an option.
when someone is a danger to those that can least defend themselves, that person cannot be trusted within the constraints of society, regardless of age or mental capacity.
this is a horrible act. Hurting a child, even if by another child, is a situation where rehabilitation is likely not an option.
when someone is a danger to those that can least defend themselves, that person cannot be trusted within the constraints of society, regardless of age or mental capacity.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:46 pm to BabyTac
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Should be charged with more than murder pussy. The 11 year old should be tortured to death as well.
my god you're stupid
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:54 pm to FenrirTheBeard
Burned to death or firing squad? Take your pic. How does an 11 get this fricked up in the head anyway?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:55 pm to lsucoonass
you have got to be some kind of fricked up to be imagining ways to execute a fricking 11 year old girl. that's just sick.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:56 pm to FenrirTheBeard
The Bad Seed.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:58 pm to TH03
Ok life in a mental institution. Solitary confinement however
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:03 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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Chief Ice says he's never seen anything this disturbing in his 30-year career. The department is also considering counseling for the officers who responded to the scene.
This portion of the article got to me.
I can't even imagine what was going through the minds of first-responders when they arrived.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:06 pm to Jcorye1
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Holy shite, charging an 11 year old with murder?
Well... what would YOU call it?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:07 pm to Rouge
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this is a horrible act. Hurting a child, even if by another child, is a situation where rehabilitation is likely not an option.
I would not disagree with that notion.
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I appreciate the back and forth, but I think we might still be going to the same place.
Me too. 
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