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What was the point of QB draft choices like Sean Mannion, Garrett Grayson, Ian Book, etc.?

Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by cbree88
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:29 am
Not sure what payoff the Saints were honestly expecting to get from these choices. They were all wasted at a times when the Saints obviously had other needs. An extra contributor or two could have made the difference and pushed us over the top to the Super Bowl during the 2017-2020 seasons when we were contenders. Oh what could have been.

Was it really because Sean loved those guys because they reminded him of himself? That’s so goofy if true. That’s got to just be a rumor.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:37 am to
We didn't draft Mannion.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:38 am to
same point as any other draft pick.
Posted by lacajun069
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:38 am to
They were looking for a Diamond in the Rougth. Remember Brady went in the 6th round and wasn't all that highly though if when he came out of Michigan.

Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:42 am to
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Was it really because Sean loved those guys because they reminded him of himself? That’s so goofy if true. That’s got to just be a rumor.


I doubt that was it. More than he thought he could get the most out of guys with average physical tools with his coaching/scheme. Having Brees have the success he did probably also contributed to it.

But the margin for error is so small with guys like that, and neither one was all-world in college…I tend to think hubris did get the best of Sean in those 2 instances.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:48 am to
Payton Turner was drafted because Sean likes that name.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:53 am to
Combo of Sean getting cute thinking he make the next Brees, and hoping to land a cheap back-up for Drew.

While I agree 100% they would have been better served grabbing a player that may be able to compete at a position of need. Think of it this way, imagine having a back-up QB on a rookie deal for 3-4 years instead of spending a few million on vet backups. And if that guy ends up being good enough, if Brees steps away you have a cheap replacement
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:05 am to
Now do the hundreds of other failed qb picks around the league for each team.

Posted by LeTurdTheFerg
Member since Dec 2018
206 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:06 am to
I think this is close to the right answer. Finding that diamond in the rough/a cheap reliable backup.

I'd be willing to say that it is likely a combo of various factors: we didn't have draft-able grades on other guys at those slots, couldn't trade down for the value we wanted, or liked enough of the pre-draft tape to take a flyer on some of these guys.

Manion was drafted by the Rams though.
Posted by Champs
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:22 am to
Same reason why the patriots drafted a qb that split time at michigan
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:24 am to
I always roll my eyes when people get all bent out of shape about an extra 3rd or 4th rounder. Sure, we maybe could’ve got an extra contributor. But it’s also worth the gamble for a QB if we think he can be developed into something. It’s not like every single draft pick works out even if it’s at traditional positions
Posted by The 25 Jersey
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:46 am to
Love the takes on this board. This guy thinks a 3rd and 4th round pick cost us championships, while others think we should’ve traded up in the 1st round to take Drew Brees’ successor and waste his rookie contract sitting on the bench.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:59 am to
Just be glad we didnt Jordan Love it. Imagine the melt if we would have taken him round 1. Which a few people wanted
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:37 pm to
Why do you continue to post shitty topics. You do understand that late picks usually aren’t going to be hall of famers right? Do you have any idea how the draft works? It’s clear you know very little about football so I’m just going to assume that’s why you don’t understand the draft.

You don’t hit home runs on every pick. Later picks are just picks where you are hoping to get lucky and find a diamond.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:43 pm to
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You don’t hit home runs on every pick. Later picks are just picks where you are hoping to get lucky and find a diamond.


Later draft picks are better spent on positions other than QB. There aren’t very many Tom Brady’s around.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:44 pm to
Hoping one would work out.

The same as anyone drafting a QB post first round, or even first round.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:52 pm to
You fail when you assume he was drafting these guys to be starters
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Later draft picks are better spent on positions other than QB. There aren’t very many Tom Brady’s around.


We didn't need a Brady when we used those picks. Sometimes you just need a Luke McCown or Chase Daniel to be a serviceable back up that doesn't eat salary cap.

If they happen to become starter quality then they have surpassed their draft expectations and every body in the Front Office gets a pat on the back and a contract extension. If they flame out, then they were just a mid round pick. If a QB never sets foot on the field in a real game, they are still providing value at practice and in the QB room. Is your question even real? What is the point in drafting anybody at positions with a current starter in place?
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:01 pm to
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GynoSandberg


One of the few sane people on this board.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:06 pm to
Because you can always use a solid backup. But what if that guy turns into Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescot....hell, I'd even take a Kirk Cousins at this point.
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