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Was an explanation ever given for that last timeout?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:43 am
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:43 am
Was watching with the volume down so perhaps I missed exactly what happened, but after the long catch and fumble, I couldn't understand WHY we would even consider burning one. If anything, Oakland would have taken a TO or at least challenged the ruling of a fumble so at least the Saints wouldn't have it in a goal-to-go situation. I feel Payton is a smart man, but was that just a Les Miles type of TO call?
Did Payton address it all in the post gamer presser?
Did Payton address it all in the post gamer presser?
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:46 am to sicboy
They never explained it, but the announcers suggested that in the mayhem of the long play and trying to figure out where to spot the ball, the play clock was continuing to run and it got low.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:47 am to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Panic move, then. You take that penalty if it means saving that last timeout. You know your defense isn't stopping anyone and you'll probably have the ball last to win.
It's getting old.
It's getting old.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:00 am to sicboy
What about an explanation for burning a timeout to kick a field goal from the 2 yard line instead of taking the 5 yard delay of game penalty?
Did we ever get an explanation for that?
Did we ever get an explanation for that?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:00 am to sicboy
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You take that penalty
You never take that penalty.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:01 am to DollaChoppa
There is no explanation. We don't value timeouts and it likely cost us the game.
And it wasn't a long play, we ran the fricking option
And it wasn't a long play, we ran the fricking option
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 8:02 am
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:06 am to dj30
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You never take that penalty.
Like hell you don't. With the way they were moving the ball, 1st and goal from the 7 isn't going to make that much of a difference, especially if you're down to 1 timeout with 6 minutes remaining.
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And it wasn't a long play, we ran the fricking option
You're thinking of the first blown timeout, right before the blocked/made fg.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:16 am to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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trying to figure out where to spot the ball
I heard them say that too, if that's the case then the refs should have stopped the play clock. There were a couple of plays where the refs delayed the start of the next play because they couldn't get the ball set-up properly
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:38 am to sicboy
My best guesses, or a combination of them:
1. they were dicking around assuming Oakland was going to challenge it
2. nobody knew the rules so they didn't know where the ball would eventually be spotted
3. the o-linemen couldn't get downfield in time, PLUS they didn't know where it would be spotted
4. nobody actually saw the official signal for the play clock to begin
1. they were dicking around assuming Oakland was going to challenge it
2. nobody knew the rules so they didn't know where the ball would eventually be spotted
3. the o-linemen couldn't get downfield in time, PLUS they didn't know where it would be spotted
4. nobody actually saw the official signal for the play clock to begin
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:51 am to dj30
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You take that penalty
You never take that penalty.
Edit: apparently talking about different penalties
That 5 yards to move from the 2 to the 7 is a lot less valuable than the timeout.
Furthermore, we were never gonna go for it. Have the fg unit ready
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:51 am to sicboy
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You're thinking of the first blown timeout, right before the blocked/made fg.
Ah, well I don't remember the other one then. If we were on offense, then you don't take it
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:40 am to lsutigers1992
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4. nobody actually saw the official signal for the play clock to begin
Did they stop the 40 second clock and set the ball and start the 25 second clock? I think the refs dicked around discussing the fumble and should have gotten everyone set and then started the 25 second clock, but I'm afraid they didn't and screwed up.
The NFL should change the rules for a 40 plus yard play that doesn't score and do the 25 second clock. The offense should not be penalized because they made a great play.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:21 pm to tigercavor
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Isn't it on the official to reset the playclock if it's THEM who are holding up play? If not, this is nuts.
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--Timeout No. 3 -- Scenario: 6:07 fourth quarter, Saints ball, first-and-goal at the Oakland 2. This one came after the wild 54-yard catch-and-fumble-recovery-run by Willie Snead and Michael Thomas. There was confusion on the field as the officials tried to determine if Snead was down by contact before the ball was fumbled and where the ball would be spotted once they made their ruling. I was surprised referee John Parry did not review a replay of the play to get it straight. The Saints actually caught a break with the spot, which should have been at the 4, where Thomas' elbow hit the ground, but was instead placed at the 2. The Fox broadcast showed a clearly perturbed Payton discussing the situation with Parry on the sideline.
"We're in the process of the officials gathering and a whistle-ready-for-play happens while they're still in discussion," Payton said on his conference call with local reporters Monday. "All of sudden we're going to goal-line personnel, (and) it's evident we're not gong to get this play off. Look, that didn't go the way it's supposed to mechanically (from the officials)."
Isn't it on the official to reset the playclock if it's THEM who are holding up play? If not, this is nuts.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:25 pm to sicboy
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I was surprised referee John Parry did not review a replay of the play to get it straight.
Unless I am mistaken, he doesn't have that decision to make. All turnovers are reviewed automatically, but that was not a turnover. The ball remained with the Saints. The only way it could be challenged was if Del Rio threw the red flag.
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