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re: Tracking New Orleans Saints Final 53
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:48 am to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:48 am to partywiththelombardi
Justin Drescher makes the final roster.
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:54 am to bonethug0108
The only thing that I think may be different this season is S and RB. I think that we may keep 4 of each this season.
I think that Sunseri will make the team being a 5th rounder (not guaranteed). But I have seen him play enough to know that he has good instincts and he plays fast. He is not scared of contact either. He can be that rotational in the box safety, that can cover better than Harper.
RB: I think that Payton will make this Ingram's put up or shut up season. I think that Payton will try to put a heavier load on him so hopefully there will be no need for 5 RBs. I do think that he will have one on the PS though.
I believe that one of the extras will either be placed along the OL or at WR on offense.
The other will probably be placed at CB where we have shown an inability to keep them healthy the last couple of seasons.
I think that Sunseri will make the team being a 5th rounder (not guaranteed). But I have seen him play enough to know that he has good instincts and he plays fast. He is not scared of contact either. He can be that rotational in the box safety, that can cover better than Harper.
RB: I think that Payton will make this Ingram's put up or shut up season. I think that Payton will try to put a heavier load on him so hopefully there will be no need for 5 RBs. I do think that he will have one on the PS though.
I believe that one of the extras will either be placed along the OL or at WR on offense.
The other will probably be placed at CB where we have shown an inability to keep them healthy the last couple of seasons.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:30 am to infantry1026
I think a lot more positions are open to change than just S and HB. We really don't know how things will play out and many people had Roby making it but Foster not and it being either Cadet or Robinson before the preseason(there are plenty more examples).
QB could be 2 or 3
HB could be 4 or 5(and if we keep or tradition of UDFA HBs alive it could be 5)
FB/TE will be 4(more of a question of 2 or 3 TEs)
WR could be 5 or 6
OT should be 4
C/G should be 4
DE could be 4, 5, or 6
NT could be 2 or 3
LB could be 7, 8, or 9
CB could be 4, 5, or 6
S could be 4, 5, or 6
K will be 1
P will be 1
LS will be 1
I get that that's your early projection and I'll have mine too. Just pointing out that many positions are open as far as how many we take into the season, and it can(and has) changed during the season.
Edit:
Also, you have to think of some of these positions more in terms of special teams and not backups. Like the 5th HB vs. 6th WR will likely be a return guy so it doesn't matter that he's a HB or a WR. Same thing with gunner, which could be a WR, CB, or S.
So it's not just about the position itself, but where the guy can help on special teams.
QB could be 2 or 3
HB could be 4 or 5(and if we keep or tradition of UDFA HBs alive it could be 5)
FB/TE will be 4(more of a question of 2 or 3 TEs)
WR could be 5 or 6
OT should be 4
C/G should be 4
DE could be 4, 5, or 6
NT could be 2 or 3
LB could be 7, 8, or 9
CB could be 4, 5, or 6
S could be 4, 5, or 6
K will be 1
P will be 1
LS will be 1
I get that that's your early projection and I'll have mine too. Just pointing out that many positions are open as far as how many we take into the season, and it can(and has) changed during the season.
Edit:
Also, you have to think of some of these positions more in terms of special teams and not backups. Like the 5th HB vs. 6th WR will likely be a return guy so it doesn't matter that he's a HB or a WR. Same thing with gunner, which could be a WR, CB, or S.
So it's not just about the position itself, but where the guy can help on special teams.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:42 am to bonethug0108
Oh.... I agree with everything you just stated. Especially regarding ST. In that regard I could see the extra spot go to the WR group, but extra lineman are valuable as well.
Either way, I think things may change a little regarding the final 53 as you stated.
Either way, I think things may change a little regarding the final 53 as you stated.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:07 am to infantry1026
I think at LB the 2 more that make it will be Reddick, and a battle between Rufus Johnson and Keyaunta Dawson for the final spot. Powell to the Toon "redshirt" season with Khairi Fortt to the practice squad.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:13 am to JayWalkTiger
We carried five at safety last year but I'm not sure we'll keep more than four this season. We were pretty weak with Harper and Vaccaro was only a rookie.
With the addition of Byrd...the quick transition to the NFL by KV...and addition through subtraction of others...the staff may be confident with only four.
With the addition of Byrd...the quick transition to the NFL by KV...and addition through subtraction of others...the staff may be confident with only four.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:20 am to Earn Your Keep
Yup I think we go into the season with five cornerbacks and 4 safety's. With Marcus ball and Vinny fighting it out for the last spot.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:36 am to Earn Your Keep
Vaccaro being a rookie had nothing to do with keeping 5 safeties and Harper played his role well last year(if anything Jenkins was the weak one). We had the whole preseason to see if Vaccaro was legit and he was.
If we only kept 4 it would have been Jenkins, Harper, Vaccaro, and Bush. Hell we almost kept 6 with Leonhard(and we should have kept him over IAQ).
So your reasoning we kept 5 is flawed. We kept 4 guys capable of playing and 1 guy as a pure special teamer. If we keep 5 again it will be because of that same reason.
If none of these fringe guys can play special teams then that is the only reason we keep 4(or if a 6th corner plays ST better than the 5th safety).
If we only kept 4 it would have been Jenkins, Harper, Vaccaro, and Bush. Hell we almost kept 6 with Leonhard(and we should have kept him over IAQ).
So your reasoning we kept 5 is flawed. We kept 4 guys capable of playing and 1 guy as a pure special teamer. If we keep 5 again it will be because of that same reason.
If none of these fringe guys can play special teams then that is the only reason we keep 4(or if a 6th corner plays ST better than the 5th safety).
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:13 pm to partywiththelombardi
QB
2 or 3
Locks: Brees
Likely:
Bubble: McCown, Griffin
Camp Body: Kilgore
HB
4 or 5
Locks: Thomas, Ingram, Robinson
Likely:
Bubble: Cadet, Flanders
Camp Body:
FB
1 or 2
Locks: Lorig
Likely:
Bubble: Johnson
Camp Body:
WR
5 or 6
Locks: Colston, Stills, Cooks
Likely: Morgan
Bubble: Meachem, Toon, Coleman
Camp Body: Tanner, Givens, Hawkins, Jones, Hamm
TE
2 or 3
Locks: Graham, Watson
Likely: Hill
Bubble:
Camp Body: Cunningham
OT
4
Locks: Strief, Armstead
Likely: Harris
Bubble: Jones, Nsekhe, Rooks
Camp Body:
OG
2 or 3
Locks: Evans, Grubbs
Likely:
Bubble: Kelemete, Golic Jr.
Camp Body:
C
1 or 2
Locks:
Likely: Lelito
Bubble: Armstrong
Camp Body:
DE
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Jordan, Hicks, Foster
Likely: Walker
Bubble: Uko
Camp Body: Virgil, Reynolds
NT
2 or 3
Locks: Jenkins, Bunkley
Likely:
Bubble: McCray
Camp Body:
OLB(pass rusher)
2 or 3
Locks: Galette, Butler
Likely:
Bubble: Dawson, Johnson
Camp Body: Uzo-Diribe
OLB(traditional)
2 or 3
Locks: Haralson
Likely: Powell
Bubble: Knox
Camp Body: Edebali
ILB
3, 4, or 5
Locks: Lofton, Hawthorne
Likely: Humber, Reddick, Fortt
Bubble:
Camp Body: Nixon, Hadley
CB
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Lewis, Bailey, Jean-Baptiste, White
Likely: Robinson
Bubble: Sweeting, Wade, Frederick
Camp Body: Brooks, Davis, Dixon
S
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush
Likely: Ball
Bubble: Sunseri
Camp Body: Warren, Zimmerman
K
1
Locks: Graham
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body: Dimke
P
1
Locks: Morstead
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body:
LS
1
Locks: Drescher
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body:
Updated.
2 or 3
Locks: Brees
Likely:
Bubble: McCown, Griffin
Camp Body: Kilgore
HB
4 or 5
Locks: Thomas, Ingram, Robinson
Likely:
Bubble: Cadet, Flanders
Camp Body:
FB
1 or 2
Locks: Lorig
Likely:
Bubble: Johnson
Camp Body:
WR
5 or 6
Locks: Colston, Stills, Cooks
Likely: Morgan
Bubble: Meachem, Toon, Coleman
Camp Body: Tanner, Givens, Hawkins, Jones, Hamm
TE
2 or 3
Locks: Graham, Watson
Likely: Hill
Bubble:
Camp Body: Cunningham
OT
4
Locks: Strief, Armstead
Likely: Harris
Bubble: Jones, Nsekhe, Rooks
Camp Body:
OG
2 or 3
Locks: Evans, Grubbs
Likely:
Bubble: Kelemete, Golic Jr.
Camp Body:
C
1 or 2
Locks:
Likely: Lelito
Bubble: Armstrong
Camp Body:
DE
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Jordan, Hicks, Foster
Likely: Walker
Bubble: Uko
Camp Body: Virgil, Reynolds
NT
2 or 3
Locks: Jenkins, Bunkley
Likely:
Bubble: McCray
Camp Body:
OLB(pass rusher)
2 or 3
Locks: Galette, Butler
Likely:
Bubble: Dawson, Johnson
Camp Body: Uzo-Diribe
OLB(traditional)
2 or 3
Locks: Haralson
Likely: Powell
Bubble: Knox
Camp Body: Edebali
ILB
3, 4, or 5
Locks: Lofton, Hawthorne
Likely: Humber, Reddick, Fortt
Bubble:
Camp Body: Nixon, Hadley
CB
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Lewis, Bailey, Jean-Baptiste, White
Likely: Robinson
Bubble: Sweeting, Wade, Frederick
Camp Body: Brooks, Davis, Dixon
S
4, 5, or 6
Locks: Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush
Likely: Ball
Bubble: Sunseri
Camp Body: Warren, Zimmerman
K
1
Locks: Graham
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body: Dimke
P
1
Locks: Morstead
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body:
LS
1
Locks: Drescher
Likely:
Bubble:
Camp Body:
Updated.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:49 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
Harper played his role well last year
Sounds like you're the one with the flawed reasoning.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:19 pm to Earn Your Keep
Ok buddy.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:23 pm to infantry1026
Bradon Colman will make the final roster. Receivers will be colston,stills,cooks,Morgan, and Colman bank it.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:37 pm to saintsalwaysnumber1
quote:I can see a 6th one sneaking on also, but you could be right about 5 of them. Meachem or Toon could squeak by.
Brandon Coleman will make the final roster. Receivers will be colston,stills,cooks,Morgan, and Coleman bank it.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:41 pm to partywiththelombardi
GREAT list! Thank you!
This is the kind of work that sports reporters should be doing. Very good!
This is the kind of work that sports reporters should be doing. Very good!
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