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Todd McShay's 2016 NFL Mock Draft 3.0
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:40 am
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1. Tennessee Titans
Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi
Tunsil is the most talented offensive lineman in the draft, so if Tennessee is interested in filling its biggest need -- and protecting QB Marcus Mariota for the long term -- he would be a great choice. If a QB-needy team is looking to leapfrog Cleveland and trade up to the No. 1 spot, then the Titans could stockpile some extra picks and still potentially get a really good second option at tackle in Ronnie Stanley.
2. Cleveland Browns
Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
The Browns have a lot of needs, but none of them matter much until they find a long-term answer at QB. Wentz and Cal's Jared Goff continued to separate themselves from the rest of the QB class at the NFL combine. The decision here will come down to personal preference. Wentz has better athleticism and bigger hands to grip the ball in bad weather. Goff has more experience against high-level competition and a stronger arm. I give Wentz the edge for now, but it's close.
3. San Diego Chargers
DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
Offensive tackle is certainly an option here, with Philip Rivers aging and the line continuing to struggle last season. But Buckner would give San Diego a much-needed scheme-versatile defender who is a disruptive force against the run. He made great strides as a pass-rusher last season, finishing the Pac-12 season with 8.0 sacks in nine games. At 6-foot-7 and 291 pounds, Buckner is a perfect 5-technique in a 3-4.
Someone tell me where'd Jack go and who he has Saints at 12 with?
1. Tennessee Titans
Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi
Tunsil is the most talented offensive lineman in the draft, so if Tennessee is interested in filling its biggest need -- and protecting QB Marcus Mariota for the long term -- he would be a great choice. If a QB-needy team is looking to leapfrog Cleveland and trade up to the No. 1 spot, then the Titans could stockpile some extra picks and still potentially get a really good second option at tackle in Ronnie Stanley.
2. Cleveland Browns
Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
The Browns have a lot of needs, but none of them matter much until they find a long-term answer at QB. Wentz and Cal's Jared Goff continued to separate themselves from the rest of the QB class at the NFL combine. The decision here will come down to personal preference. Wentz has better athleticism and bigger hands to grip the ball in bad weather. Goff has more experience against high-level competition and a stronger arm. I give Wentz the edge for now, but it's close.
3. San Diego Chargers
DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
Offensive tackle is certainly an option here, with Philip Rivers aging and the line continuing to struggle last season. But Buckner would give San Diego a much-needed scheme-versatile defender who is a disruptive force against the run. He made great strides as a pass-rusher last season, finishing the Pac-12 season with 8.0 sacks in nine games. At 6-foot-7 and 291 pounds, Buckner is a perfect 5-technique in a 3-4.
Someone tell me where'd Jack go and who he has Saints at 12 with?
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:41 am to Chad504boy
Robinson is never going to be a guy who puts up huge numbers or blows away the athletic tests in Indy, but if you're looking for an interior D-lineman to plug holes and occupy blockers, this is your guy. On tape, he consistently stands up opposing linemen and pushes them into the backfield. He does a good job of tracking the ball and redirecting for someone who's 307 pounds. Tough, physical and imposing, Robinson is exactly the type of player the Saints need to change their identity on defense.
Jack was 8th to the Dolohins...
Jack was 8th to the Dolohins...
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:49 am to dj30
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Robinson is never going to be a guy who puts up huge numbers or blows away the athletic tests in Indy, but if you're looking for an interior D-lineman to plug holes and occupy blockers, this is your guy. On tape, he consistently stands up opposing linemen and pushes them into the backfield. He does a good job of tracking the ball and redirecting for someone who's 307 pounds. Tough, physical and imposing, Robinson is exactly the type of player the Saints need to change their identity on defense.
so he had A'shawn to Saints? Meh.
Brah, Jack anywhere like below 6, i'm willing to go all in on a trade up for him.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:11 am to Chad504boy
quote:The Saints need more players, not less players.
Brah, Jack anywhere like below 6, i'm willing to go all in on a trade up for him.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:15 am to The Sad Banana
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The Saints need more players, not less players.
Saints need difference makers, not just quantity of mediocrity.
Eta: we desperately need a longterm impact making player at WLB, Ellerbe will be a good bandaid for another year. gotta worthy about his ability to stay healthy.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:18 am to Chad504boy
Yes, he had Ashawn to the Saints.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:29 am to Chad504boy
That's going to cost the Saints dearly. I don't know if they can afford it.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:38 am to The Sad Banana
It would cost us a 2nd round pick at least.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:40 am to The Sad Banana
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That's going to cost the Saints dearly. I don't know if they can afford it.
I wouldn't hesitate at all. He's that good at a position we need that bad.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:49 am to The Sad Banana
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That's going to cost the Saints dearly
Not a fan of making big jumps up in the draft. There will be good players to be had at 12 and on. It's up to the team to identify these players, and develop them correctly.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:39 pm to Chad504boy
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so he had A'shawn to Saints? Meh.
Jesus Christ, some of you. One of the best interior linemen I've seen in 10 years and he's only 20.
Yea, meh. I pray your FO drafts with the attitude that people like Robinson are meh. You'll be the Browns in no time.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:44 pm to DoubleDown
We've played Falcons for like 30 years, I know meh when I see it. A'shawn is hardly a top consensus DT in this draft alone much less whatever you've been looking at for 10 years.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:48 pm to Chad504boy
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We've played Falcons for like 30 years, I know meh when I see it.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:21 pm to DoubleDown
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One of the best interior linemen I've seen in 10 years
Yeahh, no. He's a solid player, and could have a successful career, but he's nowhere near some generational talent like you allude to.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:45 pm to Chad504boy
Yeah I wouldn't give up anything to move up to get a player coming off a major injury. If he falls to us then I would think about it but I would concentrate on the front 4, either DE or DT. I would hope Lawson would be there at 12 but after the combine I have serious doubts he would be there.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:05 pm to Chad504boy
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Brah, Jack anywhere like below 6, i'm willing to go all in on a trade up for him.
No way. Jack is good, but we need better players at multiple positions. We aren't the Texans where we just need a QB or something. I'd take Robinson and Tyler Boyd over just Jack.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:40 pm to DoubleDown
So people on this board get shite for saying Ingram sucks(dumb) and are LSU fans but when an obvious Bama fan says something like this nobody jumps on him? Of course you think that.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:53 pm to DoubleDown
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Jesus Christ, some of you. One of the best interior linemen I've seen in 10 years and he's only 20.
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best interior linemen I've seen
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in 10 years
Crimson shades gives you a whole new perspective on the world
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:55 pm to deuce985
They're jumping on him. Marcell Dareus was better.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 4:14 pm to Chad504boy
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Brah, Jack anywhere like below 6, i'm willing to go all in on a trade up for him.
frick that. This is the exact opposite strategy than what we need to have. Considering the inexact science of making draft picks, it boggles my mind that teams don't adopt the strategy of collecting draft picks by trading down. Jimmy Johnson built a dynasty in Dallas employing this philosophy.
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