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re: Time for Sean P to go

Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:10 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:10 am to
Is reading comprehension an issue for you again?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:12 am to
You said he's considered an elite coach, I'm saying his record doesn't support that
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:13 am
Posted by KindaRaw
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:13 am to
How many NFL coaches have coached currently for 8+ years with the same team? Numbers are skewed a lot by stuff like this.
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

You said he's considered an elite coach, I'm saying his record doesn't support that



Yes, I said he's widely considered to be a great coach.

What you said does nothing to dispute what I said.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:15 am to
The list I looked at showed current teams, and usually a coach doesn't come into a good situation
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:17 am to
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His winning percentage is in the middle tier of active NFL coaches



He has the 6th highest winning percentage among qualified, active head coaches.

23rd all time

The guys ahead of him are Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthy, John Harbauh, and Mike Tomlin...
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:18 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:18 am to
So 6 out of 32 currently makes you elite?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:18 am to
quote:

So 6 out of 32 currently makes you elite?



Seriously, can you not read?
Posted by KindaRaw
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:20 am to
How can you even say that isn't elite? All of these Coaches have won a SB (besides SF Harbaugh) in the past 5 years. Being put in that category means you are elite...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:20 am to
What is it that you want me to read? Is your message encrypted within what you're actually saying? You said he's considered elite, and I don't consider being 6th elite
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:22 am to
So nearly 1/4 of all current coaches are considered elite?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

What is it that you want me to read? Is your message encrypted within what you're actually saying? You said he's considered elite, and I don't consider being 6th elite



I said he's widely considered to be an elite coach.

Is he not widely considered to be an elite coach? He's near the top of every list, specifically when asked of the players and coaches who actually play the game

Also, Tom Coughlin comes in at 13th overall...
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:27 am to
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So nearly 1/4 of all current coaches are considered elite?



He's won just about 70% of his games over the last 5 seasons yet you're acting like he's lost this huge 2009 edge.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:27 am to
I would argue that most of those people don't know what elite means
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:28 am to
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I would argue that most of those people don't know what elite means



he was ranked 2nd in the NFL by the players last year
Posted by KindaRaw
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:29 am to
I question if you even know what elite is.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:30 am to
He's 6-4 in the playoffs, with 5 of those wins coming in 2 seasons
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I would argue that most of those people don't know what elite means



quote:

Much like the "QB Tiers" project published earlier in the offseason, I asked what I consider a balanced range of informed voters -- eight current general managers, four former GMs, four personnel directors, four executives, six coordinators and four position coaches -- to provide a 1-5 rating for every head coach. Bill Belichick led the way with 28 votes in the first tier, followed by Pete Carroll (23) and Sean Payton (22). No one else commanded more than a dozen top-tier votes, drawing a clear line after these three coaches in the eyes of the 30 insiders. But another half-dozen coaches were not too far behind, and there were surprises along the way.




Sounds elite
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:31 am to
Is winning 70% of the games over the last 5 years considered good to you?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:32 am to
Why are we only looking at 5 years?
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