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re: The Jimmy Trade was a Patriotesque move
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:34 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:34 pm to Fun Bunch
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Let's just forget the fact that Gronk went through a whole bunch if injuries.
i'm not forgetting that at all
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It was a legit question at the time, and if you are saying otherwise you are lying your arse off.
gronk's elite blocking always made him the better player. he also had a better peak receiving season
now people are coming out of the woodwork to shite on graham. it's funny. you say the same shite back then and you were called out
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:34 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Well said.
Its like a game day meltdown around here. Anyone thinking same?
Its like a game day meltdown around here. Anyone thinking same?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:41 pm to CocoLoco
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I'm in the middle for this trade to be honest.
It's the smart place to be until we see how the rest of the offseason shakes out. Personally, I plan to white-knuckle this fricker till September.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:41 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Graham vs Gronk was a legitimate argument at one time. Jimmy was cheap and producing at a high level, Gronk was injured.
Even after he signed his extension, Gronk was still cheap. He signed for a bargain deal
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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now people are coming out of the woodwork to shite on graham. it's funny. you say the same shite back then and you were called out
Now?
Where have you been the last 2 seasons?
Not many thought that Graham was better when both were healthy.
You love making posts like this though to really choke your own dick.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:45 pm to TigerBait1127
It hurts this year unless the team really was planning to spend $12.5M on a Center, which they basically just did.
Trading Jimmy hurts this year and for the fact that we traded a guy under contract for 3 years for one only under the next 2.
It isn't a horrible move in the sense that Jimmy was the entire offense, but it will hurt acquiring players this year.
Trading Jimmy hurts this year and for the fact that we traded a guy under contract for 3 years for one only under the next 2.
It isn't a horrible move in the sense that Jimmy was the entire offense, but it will hurt acquiring players this year.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:48 pm to Geauxgurt
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It hurts this year unless the team really was planning to spend $12.5M on a Center, which they basically just did.
Well that is shortsighted and ignores the rest of the it.
Also, it ignores the $5 million we had to pay out for Graham's roster bonus that we no longer have to.
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It isn't a horrible move in the sense that Jimmy was the entire offense, but it will hurt acquiring players this year.
Except that we wouldn't just be signing free agents to 1 year deals and like to backload our contracts anyways
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:50 pm to TigerBait1127
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Well that is shortsighted and ignores the rest of the it.
Not really unless you're looking for 2016 as the year to win a title and nothing past it.
Unger is a nice pick up, but he isn't a youthful player and has a decent-sized salary along with coming off injury.
In the end, I think it's a wash for both teams especially with New Orleans having to give up a pick too.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:00 pm to MoreOrLes
The Patriots make these moves before they sign long term contracts, they are still very reactionary
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:02 pm to MoreOrLes
Would the patriots have given a fourth round pick?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:02 pm to Geauxgurt
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Not really unless you're looking for 2016 as the year to win a title and nothing past it.
That doesn't make any sense. You can structure deals with a good signing bonus and low upfront costs without destroying your future.
Also, this moves clears up more money in the future. That $9 million would have been paid over the next 3 years either way, and we save $4.5 million next year with both contracts, and have $10 million off in 2017
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Unger is a nice pick up, but he isn't a youthful player and has a decent-sized salary along with coming off injury.
True, but he's only 28 and coming off a high ankle sprain. He played in the playoffs.
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In the end, I think it's a wash for both teams especially with New Orleans having to give up a pick too.
I don't really disagree with that.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:03 pm to TigerBait1127
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Also, this moves clears up more money in the future
it does but how much do we honestly expect to benefit? how many more years does brees have?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:04 pm to THRILLHO
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The Patroits make moves BEFORE having to pay out big contracts, not AFTER.
DING DING DING DING DING
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it does but how much do we honestly expect to benefit? how many more years does brees have?
That wasn't my point. We can sign a free agent to a deal this year that takes advantage of the additional cap space in the future that this deal saved.
This cost us $2.5 million this year, but also ignores that it could give us freedom to cut another player, like Evans or Grubbs, with the additional 1st round draft pick.
That $2.5 million is nothing compared to the money it frees up
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:29 pm to Spunky
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Spunky
You gonna get banned dude...trust me, I know.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:30 pm to TigerBait1127
But what if the rumors are true and we do get another pick?
It'd go from debateable to in the saints favor.
It'd go from debateable to in the saints favor.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:30 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Oh he's close.. if it hasn't happened already..
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