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re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:
Posted on 8/17/14 at 3:31 pm to EmperorGout
Posted on 8/17/14 at 3:31 pm to EmperorGout
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The Oilers had some great runs that were always foiled by having a conference rival that was their kryptonite - be it Pittsburgh or Buffalo.
Same could be said for the Saints during the late 1980's to early 1990's with the 49ers. But, the Saints won a Superbowl.
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:02 pm to Jake88
quote:Prior to the strike year (87 I think), we had a good case for WORST franchise in football, and possibly in professional sports. Zero playoff trips, zero winning seasons, first team the expansion Buccaneers beat. Thought we might turn the corner with Manning/Muncie/Chandler/Galbreath after they had a good offense in 79, only to go 1-15 the next season.
Jake88
Remember that great team Mora had in the 80's, with the Dome Patrol? Well, not a lot of other teams' fans do, since it was only a few seasons, and we lost every playoff game. Our best season that stretch was the strike year, and it's pretty hard to call that anything outside of blind luck, that the disaster brought the league down to us, more than we rose... and because we were able to pillage the USFL more than most of the other teams did.
you then had Haslett's little run of a couple seasons, where we finally did win a playoff game.
Those 2 stretches were basically the only time we didn't totally suck, prior to the Brees/Payton era; a lot of the teams you think we should be ahead of- they at least had winning seasons, or .500 seasons scattered around.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:02 pm to Scoob
Interesting, but I think that the formula should account for seasons played. For instance if team A has only been around 10 years and has 4 playoff appearances, to me that is better than Team B that has been around 20 years and has 5 playoff appearances. Team A makes the playoffs 40% of the time, whereas Team B makes the playoffs 25% of the time.
Also, it was easier to win a SB when there were 24 franchises than there are now that there are 32.
Also, it was easier to win a SB when there were 24 franchises than there are now that there are 32.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:05 pm to Jake88
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But, the Saints won a Superbowl.
Yes. It also took us 20 years to manage a winning season.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:53 am to TigerintheNO
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Since then the Detroit Lions have won a total of ONE PLAYOFF GAME and they are #17 on the list.
I can see the Lions being around 17. The Lions have four world championships and quite a few hall of famers. Since it's an all-time greatness list I don't think titles 50-60 year ago should hold less weight, but it does here since Super Bowls are given 8 more points than a pre-Super Bowl era world title.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:44 am to Jake88
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The Bucs, Seahawks, Bengals, Titans/Oilers and Cardinals ahead of the Saints is laughable.
Not really.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:49 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Too much confusion here.
The team currently calling themselves the Browns are NOT the Browns that won championships.
That team is now in Baltimore.
The "new" Browns should be dead last.
The team currently calling themselves the Browns are NOT the Browns that won championships.
That team is now in Baltimore.
The "new" Browns should be dead last.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:02 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
The modern browns assumed the history of the old browns whenever they were brought back into existence. It was a widely publicized decision.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:05 pm to Gruky
I don't think the pre-merger teams should be considered to be honest. That gives a significant advantage to old teams that essentially had much higher odds to win it all before the merger. 1/10 odds compared to 1/32 today is a significant advantage.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:19 pm to saintsfan92612
Most of our points have come in the last seven years, including 8 points from Ricky Jackson.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:31 pm to bountyhunter
I would like to see a points per year kind of system. If I get an extended lull at work I may calculate it but that point system is shite.
Also, I think it is laughable that 2 Superbowl losses=1 super Bowl win and a championship from the 30s was greater than a superbowl loss.
It was just an article I saw Saturday at work that I thought some people would enjoy.
Also, I think it is laughable that 2 Superbowl losses=1 super Bowl win and a championship from the 30s was greater than a superbowl loss.
It was just an article I saw Saturday at work that I thought some people would enjoy.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:24 pm to saintsfan92612
How are the Patriots not on the top 10?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:04 pm to LSUlefty
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How are the Patriots not on the top 10?
...bc they were terrible for most of their existence before Brady?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:33 pm to EmperorGout
They went to 2 SB's before Brady and 7 overall.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:00 pm to LSUlefty
Right. They had a comparable history to the Cincinnati Bengals prior to Brady.
ETA: They went to the playoffs 10 times in 40 years prior to TB
ETA: They went to the playoffs 10 times in 40 years prior to TB
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:02 pm
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