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jeff5891
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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Passes for 4 yards or fewer:


Blame CSP for calling predictable screens so often the last five years


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shel311
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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Super Bowl rings: 1


What a fricking shame. We've wasted such a great talent.

1 ring is fantastic. But you're right, we should have contended for more and hopefully added another or 2 with Brees at the helm.

The lack of defenses really took away a couple more runs at it.


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shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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Here's some. In weeks 10 and 11, when just one win would have put us in the driver's seat for a playoff spot.


0 Touchdowns
6 Interceptions
1 offensive TD in two weeks....

Brees sure did pad his stats in meaningless games this year but at the end of the day we had a good enough defense to sniff the playoffs and we didn't. Brees gets one more chance in 2017 and if we don't make the playoffs he's going to be Brett Favre on the Jets throwing 29 INT's
Ahhh, the old adage where only the bad games are the ones that matter.

So the 1, 2 3+ games before weeks 10 and 11 were meaningless?


Gotta love the idea that this guy floats out there that it was Brees's 2 bad weeks that cost us a shot at the playoffs, and the 27th ranked defense was good enough.


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Rhio
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
Drew Brees is amazing, there's no denying that. Especially when he doesn't have to play in an outdoor, cold-as-hell playoff game.

My point is that stats are meaningless when you don't win.

<--still bitter about three consecutive 7-9 seasons.


shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
46744 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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Drew Brees would have so many more passing yards if he took more shots down the field.

Passes for 4 yards or fewer:

I wonder where that pic would rank Brees if you did it as a % of passes since he led the league in pass attempts. And #2 in pass attempts is Flacco, also #2 in the pic.


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shel311
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McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
46744 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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My point is that stats are meaningless when you don't win.

<--still bitter about three consecutive 7-9 seasons.
Yes, stats are meaningless when you have a shite defense, I agree.

Average Defense - We're a contender

Good Defense - We're one of the favorites
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Rhio
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
Nobody remembers all of the stats Archie Manning used to pile up back in the day, he regularly led the NFC in passing yards and was a Pro Bowl quarterback in an era where the quarterback had a target painted on his chest.

But everyone remembers how god-awful the Saints were in those days. Like Cleveland Browns, celebrating that we went 8-8 kind of awful.


shel311
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McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
46744 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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Nobody remembers all of the stats Archie Manning used to pile up back in the day, he regularly led the NFC in passing yards and was a Pro Bowl quarterback in an era where the quarterback had a target painted on his chest.

ARchie Manning doesn't belong in the same sentence as Brees, so I'm not sure what your point is. Brees was infinitely better as a QB and also had infinitely more team success than Archie.

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But everyone remembers how god-awful the Saints were in those days. Like Cleveland Browns, celebrating that we went 8-8 kind of awful.

No one is celebrating 8-8, or our actual record of 7-9 in this thread, so again, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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BRL79
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Member since Mar 2014
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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People act like Brees is an interception throwing machine or something. Look how many hall of famers are higher on that list. He's top three in every stat and is tied at 18th in interceptions.

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Leaders
+ indicates Hall of Famer Glossary
Rank Player Int Years Tm
1 Brett Favre+ 336 1991-2010 4TM
2 George Blanda+ 277 1949-1975 4TM
3 John Hadl 268 1962-1977 4TM
4 Vinny Testaverde 267 1987-2007 7TM
5 Fran Tarkenton+ 266 1961-1978 2TM
6 Norm Snead 257 1961-1976 5TM
7 Johnny Unitas+ 253 1956-1973 2TM
8 Dan Marino+ 252 1983-1999 mia
9 Peyton Manning 251 1998-2015 2TM
10 Y.A. Tittle+ 248 1948-1964 3TM
11 Jim Hart 247 1966-1984 2TM
12 Bobby Layne+ 243 1948-1962 4TM
13 Dan Fouts+ 242 1973-1987 sdg
14 Warren Moon+ 233 1984-2000 4TM
15 John Elway+ 226 1983-1998 den
16 John Brodie 224 1957-1973 sfo
17 Ken Stabler+ 222 1970-1984 3TM
18 Babe Parilli 220 1952-1969 5TM
Joe Namath+ 220 1965-1977 2TM
Drew Brees 220 2001-2016 2TM

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TigerBait1127
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
He has the same interception % as Peyton Manning


BRL79
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
That's my point


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breauxmosexual
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
Week 2 he put up an absolute dud. Oh. And having the same interception % as "peypick" manning is not a positive
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
45559 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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And having the same number of interceptions as "peypick" manning is not a positive



He actually surpassed Peyton this season

Top 15 all time

Derp

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Week 2 he put up an absolute dud. 


Try watching the games. He was on point.
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breauxmosexual
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
You're utterly clueless if you think putting up 13 points and less than 300 yards of total offense is "on point" for Drew Brees and the Saints. The defense forced 3 turnovers and put the saints in good field position and they just couldn't score points. The Saints scored one offensive touchdown. Brees being "on point" on 4 yard passes on 3rd and 10 wasn't good enough that day. Yeah he faced a good defense and a good pass rush. BUT, YOU should try watching the games. Turning in one of the worst offensive performances of the season doesn't classify as "on point"


shel311
Nicholls St. Fan
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
46744 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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And having the same interception % as "peypick" manning is not a positive


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htran90
New Orleans Saints Fan
BC
Member since Dec 2012
13309 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
Okay, so he shite the bed vs Detroit and Tampa, played 'average' vs Giants.

You gonna bring up the fact defense lost us the game vs Oakland, Atlanta x2, Carolina, and KC?

Or the fact he bailed them out vs Arizona, San Diego, Carolina, and the other Tampa game?


breauxmosexual
Member since Aug 2016
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
The defense lost the game against Kansas City??? They gave up 330 yards and 19 points and only one TD int he second half. Again, Brees pick 6 and Ingram's fumble cost us in that game, not the defense. The Raiders had a much worse defense than the Saints and they still won a lot of games. Brees will put up huge numbers in many weeks but at the end of the day he shite the bed against New York, San Diego, 2nd carolina game, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and the 2nd Atlanta game. That's a lot games to just pretty much suck in. Matt Ryan and Tom Brady pretty much had zero of these games.


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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
45559 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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You're utterly clueless if you think putting up 13 points and less than 300 yards of total offense is "on point" for Drew Brees and the Saints.


That isn't what I said. I said Drew Brees was on point. Unfortunately, we had Fleener, Cadet, and Coleman drop drive killing passes on very well thrown balls, including on back to back plays on our last drive of the game.

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 Turning in one of the worst offensive performances of the season doesn't classify as "on point"


He should have caught the balls too I guess. Do I need to breakdown every single drive in that game for you? His placement was on point all game and he made the right decisions.

Whole thing is on game pass. You can watch it by the play.

You've continuously proven to be a few cards short of a full deck.

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The Raiders had a much worse defense than the Saints and they still won a lot of games.




The Raiders finished 2nd in the NFL in takeaways, Saints finished 17th

The Saints gave up the most yards and point per drive in the NFL. Oakland finished 17th and 19th.

The Saints gave up more yards/game than the Raiders

The Saints gave up way more points/game (28.4 vs. 24.1).

Under what metric was the Raiders defense much worse than the Saints? Derp
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breauxmosexual
Member since Aug 2016
987 posts
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re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
You actually said Drew Brees bailed the defense out in San diego. He played absolutely horribly in that game and the defense forced two crucial turnovers and played lights out in the second half of that game. The Chargers D was having their way with Drew until he was given two 20 yard fields.



TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
45559 posts

re: Some Drew Brees impressive stats
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You actually said Drew Brees bailed the defense out in San diego.




No I didn't.

Quote me please. Wrong again even when trying to change the subject and ignore the facts I posted.
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