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Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:29 am to Fun Bunch
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And Peat is good.
as a G, which is not the position he was drafted to play... and don't get me wrong, because i knighted for him, as a guard, on that draft night, but to use the #13 pick on what essentially became a G, when you are drafting him as a T, is really not a "highlight"
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:30 am to chRxis
Ramczyk is literally Peat 2.0 but he'll ride the bench if he doesn't beat Zach. They forget so quickly.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:32 am to chRxis
That whole you don't draft guards high bullshite is bullshite. Most years one goes in the top 15 (this year being an extreme oddity with Oline).
Who cares if we drafted him to be a tackle? He's an above average starting guard who is still super young and developing.
Everyone laughed at Dallas for drafting a center in the first and where is their line now? Exactly.
Who cares if we drafted him to be a tackle? He's an above average starting guard who is still super young and developing.
Everyone laughed at Dallas for drafting a center in the first and where is their line now? Exactly.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:34 am to bonethug0108
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hat whole you don't draft guards high bullshite is bullshite. Most years one goes in the top 15 (this year being an extreme oddity with Oline).
No one is saying that drafting guards high is bad. He's saying that drafting a guy to fit a position (RT) and then having him fail at that and moving him to G is not a success.
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Who cares if we drafted him to be a tackle? He's an above average starting guard who is still super young and developing.
Sure. Peat has been a great player. Was he worth 13? What happens if Ramczyk doesn't beat Streif?
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Everyone laughed at Dallas for drafting a center in the first and where is their line now? Exactly.
So are you saying that Ramczyk will start??
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:39 am to rmnldr
Does it matter that Jenkins was drafted as a CB but eventually became a pro bowl safety?
If Peat becomes a pro bowl/all pro guard is the pick a failure because he doesn't play tackle?
That's stupid logic. It's not a failure if the pick is contributing at a high level, and Peat is.
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And Peat's "failure" to overtake Strief was all to do with his inability to switch to a right side technique and nothing to do with his talent level.
If Peat becomes a pro bowl/all pro guard is the pick a failure because he doesn't play tackle?
That's stupid logic. It's not a failure if the pick is contributing at a high level, and Peat is.
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And Peat's "failure" to overtake Strief was all to do with his inability to switch to a right side technique and nothing to do with his talent level.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 12:41 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:44 am to bonethug0108
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Does it matter that Jenkins was drafted as a CB but eventually became a pro bowl safety?
Not comparable at all.
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If Peat becomes a pro bowl/all pro guard is the pick a failure because he doesn't play tackle?
Until he's a pro-bowler or all-pro, the pick is a failure. They picked him to replace Streif and guess what they just had to do? Pick another tackle to try and replace him. As of right now, Peat is average to above average and was NOT worth 13.
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That's stupid logic. It's not a failure if the pick is contributing at a high level, and Peat is.
We're talking about Ramczyk here though. If he goes down the path of Peat then what the frick was the point? They basically ignored the decrepit defense to pick a backup tackle if he doesn't start.
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And Peat's "failure" to overtake Strief was all to do with his inability to switch to a right side technique and nothing to do with his talent level.
So they drafted a guy that couldn't play RT to play RT and you're calling it a success. That somehow makes you confident about them drafting Ramczyk? What the hell
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 12:45 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:46 am to rmnldr
The thing with Peat people don't realize is that we drafted him at 20-21 years old, practically a kid. He's now 23, the same age as RAMchyzh. Peat may play 12 years in NOLA. That's would be a pretty damn good HAUL
People would rather overdraft Jordan willis just bc it says DE before his name and lose the top 1 or 2 OT in the draft when you have Terron Armstead who can't SEEM to stay healthy and a 33 yo RT with one year left on his contract who everyone's been trying to get rid of the last decade
And Marcus Lattimore is a certified G and a bonifide stud and you CANT. TEACH. THAT
DRIVEMAN OUT
People would rather overdraft Jordan willis just bc it says DE before his name and lose the top 1 or 2 OT in the draft when you have Terron Armstead who can't SEEM to stay healthy and a 33 yo RT with one year left on his contract who everyone's been trying to get rid of the last decade
And Marcus Lattimore is a certified G and a bonifide stud and you CANT. TEACH. THAT
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:55 am to death valley driver
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The thing with Peat people don't realize is that we drafted him at 20-21 years old, practically a kid. He's now 23, the same age as RAMchyzh. Peat may play 12 years in NOLA. That's would be a pretty damn good HAUL
Agreed, but once again, Peat was supposed to take over for Streif. They drafted him at 13 specifically for that. I'll call it a success if he turns into a top 20 OL but until then it's been a failure.
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People would rather overdraft Jordan willis just bc it says DE before his name and lose the top 1 or 2 OT in the draft
Lose out on an OT who may not even start while Willis would fill a dire need. I don't buy into drafting BPA when there's a dire need.
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when you have Terron Armstead who can't SEEM to stay healthy and a 33 yo RT with one year left on his contract who everyone's been trying to get rid of the last decade
So will Ramczyk play this year? If he isn't starting or doesn't play significantly they basically drafted him to ride the bench. What happens if there's no good DEs at 42 or they just don't draft a DE at 42? Don't put it past the Saints to completely frick this up.
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And Marcus Lattimore is a certified G and a bonifide stud and you CANT. TEACH. THAT
Love Lattimore
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:33 am to rmnldr
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1. Ramczyk is ridiculously overrated
2. No need for OL in the first round
3. Defense still arse
How y'all can't see this is beyond me
You are fricking retard.
We have a new defensive coaching staff. A plethora of LBs and just got the No.1 rated CB to go with Breaux.
Are you forgetting that by week 3 of last year we were fielding half a defense with a walk on secondary? Go jack off and feel better.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:39 am to saintsfan1977
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You are fricking retard.
Okay.
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We have a new defensive coaching staff.
Does this make the talent on the roster any better?
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A plethora of LBs
Are any of them worth a damn? Why were they trying to draft Foster?
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and just got the No.1 rated CB to go with Breaux.
Yes. No argument against Lattimore.
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Are you forgetting that by week 3 of last year we were fielding half a defense with a walk on secondary?
No. And it's why I'm against drafting a backup OT. What the frick are you trying to argue for or against?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 5:59 am to Fun Bunch
I love our pick at 11 but kinda left scratching my head at 32. I get it to some degree ,but we are in desperate need of Defensive players. My guess is Streif is about done and they felt the had to pull the trigger.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 6:01 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:38 am to rmnldr
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quote: We have a new defensive coaching staff.
Actually Mike Nolan as LB coach, I'm sure he will get more out of the existing corps of linebackers than Vicodin Vitt.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:41 am to Broken Ear Glen
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Hope you pass soon tbh
What the frick
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:45 am to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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Saints thought Steph Anthony was a 1st round pick.
Which is true for anyone we pick. It's like you guys are simply saying picks are bad by way of the Saints picking the person. Christ. Go eat a bullet
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:50 am to stelly1025
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My guess is Streif is about done and they felt the had to pull the trigger.
Solid 'guess' Sherlock...
Some of you are underselling the importance of solid line play. Look what it did for the Cowgirls. Strief is about done and we just solidified one of the best lines in the league......given that we have an older QB who can dismantle anyone given a little time in pocket and two power RB's, you shouldnt be crying over locking up a consensus 1st rd tackle at the 32 spot....
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:26 am to rmnldr
quote:So we addressed both needs.
You know what else was? The entire defense.
OH THE HORROR!!!!!
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:27 am to rmnldr
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2. No need for OL in the first round
MI and AP will be running all over fools
Brees will be dropping bombs
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:37 am to jeff5891
It amazes me how many lack the understanding of what a good O-line will accomplish.....
I think we knocked it out of park. I wouldve taken Foster at 32 but he got snatched. Other than that, we did awesome considering many of our 'mocks' prior to draft
I think we knocked it out of park. I wouldve taken Foster at 32 but he got snatched. Other than that, we did awesome considering many of our 'mocks' prior to draft
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