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re: So wait, we traded our 2nd this year and 1st next year?

Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
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I'll bump this thread when Ingram makes rookie of the year.

it won't matter

a 1200 yard back signed for nothing last offseason

he split time and got 900 this year
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43513 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
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you gave up 3 picks for 1 player.

The one we used on him, and the 2 it took to get that pick



thats some awesome math.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94463 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
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That's illogical unless you think Ingram wasn't worth the 28th pick (all things considered).


he wasn't



In SFPs opinion. Obviously he was to the people who make a living off of making football decisions. When you work in an NFL front office, I'll be inclined to believe your opinion.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
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you have to be an AD-type to be worth that



who's to say he won't be?




PS. If your FO knowledge was as good as your "game" with women, you wouldn't be in the friend zone so much.


just sayin'
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:27 pm to
I'm saying it's too early to say whether it's a wasted pick. There is no data to support either conclusion.

I personally like the pick, but I can't sit here and tell you the Saints hit a home run.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
77408 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:28 pm to
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peyton and loomis either don't understand economics or expect ingram to be a pro-bowl RB. quickly.



its Payton



Idiot
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422311 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:28 pm to
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You



Are


A



fricking



Idiot

what badass RB did the packers have this year?

what badass RB did the saints have in 2009?
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16136 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:28 pm to
who would have been better in the second round then ingram? This really cost us one pick. And anyone who has seen the Saints run the ball knows it was fricking worth it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:28 pm to
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who's to say he won't be?

he does not have big play ability like AD, so he won't be
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
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he's not. he's a fricking RB

RBs have no value


Jesus...you should stop posting
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1807 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
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you gave up 3 picks for 1 player.


Don't be stupid. I'm not a fan of giving up next year's first for this, but we gave up two and got one back. That means we gave up two picks.

I don't have a problem with Ingram at 28. Especially since we grabbed the DE. My only gripe with the pick is we don't have a first next year as of right now. That's what it takes to move up from where we were and it's not something I would have done.

Having said that, here's an email I sent to a friend who can't follow the draft...

I know I'm a fricking sucker. All day I've listened to NFL experts on Sirius rave about Ingram. People I truly respect, but I wanted to pick up a DE/DT more. Every minute that goes by, I think of Steven Jackson. He was the top RB, but dropped because nobody wanted a running back. St Louis traded up into the late first to grab him (just a little earlier than we got Ingram). Even on a shitty team, he's been an absolute stud. I would trade PT and Ivory plus picks to get Jackson. Maybe we did something similar, but kept PT and Ivory.

By tomorrow, I'll be telling everyone how much I love this pick. But I know I'm a Saints sucker. I still think Jonathan Sullivan is going to have a change of heart and come back to dominate.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
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peyton and loomis either don't understand economics or expect ingram to be a pro-bowl RB. quickly.
Whatever keeps you feeling warm at night.

You're in the wrong profession, apparently.
Posted by saintsman49
Member since Dec 2010
655 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
i couldnt believe the saints DIDNT take ingram with the first pick, then when the trade was made, i KNEW this was what the saints were going to do........mark is the MAN.......... you will NOT be angry about this after the season starts.......
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
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I think you are overreacting.
Definitely. He never overreacts positively, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422311 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:29 pm to
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who would have been better in the second round then ingram?

i wouldn't have picked a back in the 2nd round

i would have waited until the 4th-5th round to see what was availalbe

if nothing, go to FA and try to find a back who gets cut, like thomas jones last year
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22813 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:30 pm to
Don't listen to this fool. He thinks Jenkins was a miss in the first round, and he thought Porter went in the first rd.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6152 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:30 pm to
Ha ha, I'll tell you one thing, it wouldn't be a Saints draft without a bunch of people pissed off. I guess the Saints saw that most everyone was happy with the Jordan pick and they just had to stir the pot!
Posted by el capitan
Member since Jan 2008
204 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:30 pm to
Does anyone have a link handy that confirms the actual picks we are trading or did they hear it on draft show. I walked out of the room for a few, and didn't hear it. Thanks.
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10946 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:30 pm to
Jake die. Just die
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:30 pm to
An improved running game means and improved Brees.

We addressed a need on defense (whether you agree with the player picked or not), and we grabbed more depth at a position that we were completely depleted in last year.

It's a lot of ifs, but if we don't suffer an insane amount of injuries on defense and in the backfield, the Saints are probably back in the Super Bowl last year.
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