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re: So how do we feel about our defense and Cam?

Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:50 pm to
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No one in the nfl is tackling well. This is one of the worst years in tackling we've seen. Attributed to the lockout and pussified practices with no tackling allowed. How the hell can these guys get better at wrapping up if you can only do it on gameday? Pathetic.


I've actually noticed our tackling improving a bit, except for Shanle. I blame it on account of his ninja turtleness. He has honor. Too much pizza. Nunchucks swing wildly.
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 7:31 am to
Shanle wouldn't start for 31 other teams. Charles Grant 2.0.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 8:57 am to
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Shanle wouldn't start for 31 other teams. Charles Grant 2.0.



I have no fricking idea how you even begin to make a comparison from shanle to grant.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 9:10 am to
Because Shanle was a high round draft pick who production has slipped due to his poor conditioning.
Posted by BGSB
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 10:16 am to
Shootout! Im betting on Brees
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:43 pm to
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the saints will always win a shootout.


green bay disagrees.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 10:27 pm to
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green bay disagrees.



Eh, I think if it's in NOLA we win. Teams are evenly matched

As for Cam, I'll admit he's a big surprise to me. Seeing as we can't stop a passing attack, I expect he'll get yards and they'll score but they'll also turn it over 2-3 times more than we will so we should win by about 10-14.
Posted by Catalyst
N.C.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 3:33 am to
I hope you guys decide to blitz Cam. He's at his best when being blitzed; just ask Green Bay & Arizona. Green Bay actually stopped blitzing as much at halftime and ran more zone, which confused Cam at first (3 INT's) but he rebounded.

The Bears also run a cover 2 and he torched them last week for 370+ yards.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:43 am to
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Posted by whodatfan Shanle wouldn't start for 31 other teams. Charles Grant 2.0.


That's a really lazy analysis and comparison.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 8:44 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:00 am to
I watched the Arizona game, and it was the exact opposite. They started having success once they brought the heat.

Can't say I watch the other games, but one thing I do know: Gregg Williams is a master of confusing rookie QB's.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:17 am to
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green bay disagrees.


ok, 90% of the time we win in a shootout.

and against a rookie QB that number goes up to %100
Posted by detmut
Jesuit 81 Metairie
Member since Sep 2011
2304 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:11 pm to
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I hope you guys decide to blitz Cam. He's at his best when being blitzed; just ask Green Bay & Arizona. Green Bay actually stopped blitzing as much at halftime and ran more zone, which confused Cam at first (3 INT's) but he rebounded.

The Bears also run a cover 2 and he torched them last week for 370+ yards.



so, in other words, no matter what the saints do, cam will torch them
Posted by fleurdeleap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
94 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:29 pm to
I don't love our defense against Cam, but I do love our O against their lack of D, so hopefully the team that scores the most points will be the winner, and that will more than likely be us.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:35 pm to
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I don't love our defense against Cam, but I do love our O against their lack of D, so hopefully the team that scores the most points will be the winner, and that will more than likely be us.
you don't have to hope. The team that scores the most points is always the winner
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:56 pm to
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ok, 90% of the time we win in a shootout.


Posted by fleurdeleap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
94 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:10 pm to
You're a moron.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64621 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:11 pm to
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you don't have to hope.



Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64621 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:16 pm to
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You're a moron.


Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:17 pm to
Hopefully they torch us but we still beat them. I have him starting in my fantasy league this week because my QB is on bye...
Posted by Catalyst
N.C.
Member since Oct 2011
10 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 1:25 am to
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so, in other words, no matter what the saints do, cam will torch them


Not really, no. It has to be a mix. Ideally the way to beat him is to get good pressure with your front 4 and blitz a safety or linebacker rather than just all-out blitzing.

If you blitz Cam heavily he'll get the ball out to Shockey or Olsen or just run up the middle for a good gain. Not to mention you run the risk of Steve Smith getting one-on-one, which is a mis-match against even a good corner.

The one game Cam was off in was against the Jaguars and that was more a result of him just being inaccurate for whatever reason. He was making the right decisions and would've had another big day if not for his accuracy being off - not to mention the monsoon that hit in the 2nd quarter - but he was off before that.

All in all I'd say the best approach is to get pressure with your front four and mix in some light blitzing to dial up the pressure in key situations. No doubt we're expecting you guys to blitz early and often and have a safety valve option on every play - likely Shockey and/or Olsen.
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