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Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9471 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 1:01 am to
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If Fournette is available take him. Then draft all o-line with the left over picks lol.


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Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 1:03 am to
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it's ridiculous. O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D. You'll see again this season. LSUs 2nd RB is a better overall back, Guice or whatever his name is.



not McCaffrey, nor the actual Heisman winner, Alabama’s Derrick Henry — broke more tackles than Fournette last season (85 as a runner, 10 as a receiver), en route to his posting the No. 1 rushing grade among RBs Fournette’s power is obvious, but what earns him Adrian Peterson comparisons is his combination of strength and speed. 834 of his 1,916 rushing yards last season came on runs of 15 yards or longer, making him a true breakaway threat in addition to his between-the-tackles effectiveness (on rushes on either side of the center, Fournette averaged 6.5 yards per carry).

-PFF
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 1:13 am
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 1:14 am to
Hence the "lol" at the end...

The Ingram experiment has ran its course. They need a new main tailback.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 1:18 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 1:20 am to
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The Ingram experiment has ran its course. They need a new main tailback.





Anyone who thinks Ingram is an issue with this team has purple and gold blinders on. He's a very good running back at a very good price
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 1:26 am to
With this oline it doesnt matter who the RB is.
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
2686 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:25 am to
The Ingram "experiment" has been a success, even if he took a few years to become the complete back he is today. I honestly believe, he would be regarded as an elite RB, if he was running behind a decent OL.

All I want next offseason, as of now, is two good guards and the maturation of some of our younger guys. If we actually had two guards that belonged as starters in the league, along with Armstead and Unger, Ingram would go off for 120 yards rushing a game, along with a few receptions and very good blocking. Dude has become a really good RB, some just cant tell, with our OL blocking for him.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 3:28 am
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 6:58 am to
Sticky this.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51837 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 7:18 am to
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Trade Brees to free up cap money and hope to go 0-16 to draft Fournette.


ffs
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 7:31 am to
And if they do better than 5-11, then what?


Do we make a bunch of posts saying you were wrong? Because you probably will be wrong.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8034 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 8:09 am to
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I'll be your Huckleberry. 
Dude's blown up so bad it's ridiculous. O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D. You'll see again this season. LSUs 2nd RB is a better overall back, Guice or whatever his name is. 


You sure do say this alot. Does he bother you? You seem to get all kinds of worked up over LF.

He's the best back LSU has ever had.

Terrance Mcgee, Hilliard, Steven Ridley all played in NFL games last year. Ridley was a 1200 yr rusher a few years back.

Jeremy Hill, Alfred Blue, Spencer Ware all started NFL games last year.

He's better than all of them. So there's that...

Would I take him #1? No.

Would I take him top ten? Absolutely.

Posted by amo3822
Member since Sep 2015
335 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 8:20 am to
if you think he'll probably be wrong, i assume you think
4-12 or 3-13 ?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 8:37 am to
What was funny about your post?

How many do you have the Saints winning?

quote:

if you think he'll probably be wrong, i assume you think


Reading be hard

quote:

And if they do better than 5-11, then what?


Definition, - larger; greater:
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:11 am to
quote:

The Ingram experiment has ran its course. They need a new main tailback.



Yeah. OK. Ingram is a very solid back, a hard worker, and a great player.

If we had a run blocking oline, or, at minimum, when in the red zone we ran the ball instead of going empty set shotgun in goalline situations, he'd have the stats to make you proud. But if you wish to remain ignorant go ahead.

I wish we'd transition to a run first offense. Let the run game get going and then let Brees carve up the defense.

Looking yesterday there were multiple plays, just like last year, where we'd waste a first down by sending all the receivers 20 yards down field and not give Brees a check down. In inevitably led to a scramble and a incomplete pass. It's infuriating.

This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43012 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:17 am to
Yes, they do.
The thing that sucks is the penalties, it's been a problem under Payton and continues to be.
With the trajectory of this team, who is going to want Payton anytime soon.

Coaches tend to wear out their welcome, Reid going to KC was a good move for him and maybe Payton after Brees area would be better off with a fresh start somewhere else although with the Saints organization I would still keep him until he wants to leave.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9119 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:29 am to
In the first preseason game or two was thinking the team was running a B.S. vanilla offense to not show too much in the preseason. Then I woke up and realized this is the same damn offense we`ve been running since 2006 or 2007.

Let`s forget the fact the offense hasn`t changed much. The thing I can`t wrap my head around is the fact that while Brees is running for his life, none of the WRs are open or coming back to the ball.

Every game I watch I see other teams wideouts open at some point,if the Qb is scrambling, but when I watch the Saints, it`s like our guys must just stand still or can`t get loose to get open.

Can our WR not run routes or can they not get the separation? Is it because Brees doesn`t see them like he used to?

I predicted no less than 10 wins early on for this team, now I feel bamboozled. I can`t fathom that at this point, and I WANT TO BELIEVE!
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:37 am to
quote:

The thing that sucks is the penalties, it's been a problem under Payton and continues to be.


It was a problem last year (especially Browner), but in 2014 we had the 3rd least amount of penalty yards.

We've been around the league average for his tenure, and in the top half in 3 of his past 4 seasons

Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:39 am to
I think the Brees experiment has run its course, and it was a failure.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Then I woke up and realized this is the same damn offense we`ve been running since 2006 or 2007.


That is a bad thing?

quote:

Every game I watch I see other teams wideouts open at some point,if the Qb is scrambling, but when I watch the Saints, it`s like our guys must just stand still or can`t get loose to get open.



How many times has Brees done rollout scrambling? Most of the pressure has been almost immediate and in his face.

Pressure makes the QB take his eyes from downfield. Brees moves well in the pocket, but doesn't really try to scramble often.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9119 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:43 am to
I`m not saying it`s Brees that is the problem. If that is what you are implying.

What I mean is change the playbook up using different routes or add some new plays that the Saints of the past would never run.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9119 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:47 am to
quote:

That is a bad thing?


It is when the entire league has a very good idea, what plays you are running.
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