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re: Saints missing Jimmy Graham where it matters most: The Red Zone

Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:14 am to
Duncan is on point with the biggest area a jimmy loss will hurt our squad and it has shown already.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28091 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:15 am to
Please rank in order of magnitude of being overrated:

Drew Brees
Anthony Davis
Pete Fountain

Thanks
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:18 am to
Brees is more overrated than Davis today. I don't have an opinion on Fountain.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:20 am to
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Brees is more overrated than Davis today


one is considered a top 5 or 6 qb in the league that is coming off an injury plagued season with a shitty interior OL. The other is considered a top 2 or 3 player in league and hasn't even won a playoff series yet.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Saints missing the run game where it matters the most because Payton likes to to 5 wide shotgun on the 4 yard line


I actually like the Peyton Manning no huddle approach in the red zone. Keep them spread out and don't let them get a GL package in.

I think we've struggled in the past trying to be too tough inside the 5
Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1023 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:28 am to
I don't think losing Graham will be as big of a problem as people make it out to be. Before Graham, Colston was our red zone guy. I think Brees and Colston will get their Mojo back at some point, however with the emergence of Cooks, I feel that Brees will try to force shite to Cooks. He did that with Colston, Graham, and likely Cooks!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:28 am to
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The other is considered a top 2 or 3 player in league and hasn't even won a playoff series yet.

Only by Pels fans not by People who follow the league as a whole.

quote:

one is considered a top 5 or 6 qb in the league that is coming off an injury plagued season with a shitty interior OL.
He's probably 5th or 6th best but not many around NOLA would put him that low.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7969 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:29 am to
Looks like Fauria in Detroit is on his way out. He's a good red zone guy. I remember somebody bringing him up a few weeks ago as someone to look out for. Maybe we give him a look.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

quote:
The other is considered a top 2 or 3 player in league and hasn't even won a playoff series yet.
Only by Pels fans not by People who follow the league as a whole.


Not trying to rain on your AD hate but I believe many this offseason outside of NO had put AD as early MVP candidate with the likes of LBJ and Curry.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24594 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:50 am to
Yeah hes lighting it up in seattle right now ...Stupid article.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:51 am to
I heard Detillier say last week the Saints are still looking around for another TE option and wouldn't be surprised to see them even trade for someone.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16304 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I actually like the Peyton Manning no huddle approach in the red zone. Keep them spread out and don't let them get a GL package in.


I wish we would just do this in generally sporadically throughout the game. There are too many times it just seems like the offense is just walking around and going through the motions, we give the defense too much time to adjust.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:53 am to
The bes TEs are usually teamed up with the best QBs. Brees accuracy really allowed Graham's athleticism to shine. Wilson is good but he isn't Brees. Graham will most certainly come back to earth with Seattle.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:53 am to
Where was Jimmy last year in the red zone?

This article is pointless. Our 1's played one series.


Has the season started yet? I'm ready.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16304 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:54 am to
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Do you worry about not really having a "go-to" guy in the red zone? I do.


I don't. Part of our struggles in prior years was having a "go-to guy". It would seem that Brees would try to force the ball into coverage bc he had his guy; but his strength is he's able to dissect a defense and find the open guy. So, taking away a person that he has to throw the ball to X times a game, may actually help the offense in general.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15918 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Duncan is on point with the biggest area a jimmy loss will hurt our squad and it has shown already


blocking on running plays?
Posted by Dunk47
Member since Jan 2014
1059 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:09 am to
Jimmy isn't really elevating the Seahawks red zone scoring either.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21324 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:11 am to
Thread is stupid. Preseason.


Call me when we can't score more than 10 ppg by week 3.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:13 am to
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Jimmy isn't really elevating the Seahawks red zone scoring either.

His blocking is actually netting them negative run plays
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22128 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:17 am to
Saints have sucked in the red zone for quite some time now. Jimmy didn't seem to help a whole lot last season
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