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Place your bets: training camp dark horse and surprise cut?

Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:08 am
Dark horse: George Uko.

Everyone on the d-line from last year has returned except for Tom Johnson, who signed with the Vikings, so if we carry the same amount of linemen again, there's a roster spot open.

George Uko has a quick burst and is disruptive, but he needs to work on his technique. He reminds me a lot of Tryunn Walker.

Surprise Cut: Ronald Powell.

This one is harder, because I honestly don't think they'll be a lot of surprises. I think Powell takes the path of Rufus Johnson and spends the year on the PS. Powell is athletically gifted, but missed significant time in college. I don't think he's developed enough to make the active roster.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:16 am to
Uko, maybe, but i think our DL is pretty set. You have Glenn Foster coming back too.


Dark horse: Seantavious Jones at WR.



Cuts: Robert Meachem, Brandon Coleman
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:16 am to
Are we only talking rookies?


Dark Horse: Ramon Humber

Surprise Cut: Logan Kilgore
Maybe not a surprise.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:18 am to
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Uko, maybe, but i think our DL is pretty set. You have Glenn Foster coming back too.



Exactly. The only one who left from last year was Johnson, and I think we carry the same amount of d-linemen.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:20 am to
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Surprise Cut: Logan Kilgore
Maybe not a surprise.




lol?
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:22 am to
What now?
Posted by S
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:24 am to
think strozier makes it to final cuts

surprise cut- ball
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:25 am to
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Cuts: Robert Meachem, Brandon Coleman


Would only be a surprise to message boards. I don't have any hope in this guy making the roster. Practice Squad at best.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:26 am to
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surprise cut- ball


I don't think so. Has a 3 year deal, plus, the Saints are thin at Safety depth. I think he is almost a lock.
Posted by ClientNumber9
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:33 am to
Dark horse: Tim Flanders. This is tricky but you did ask for dark horse, which I interpret as a plausible long shot. I know it's unlikely because there's no way we could keep six RBs and I highly doubt that he's going to steal a roster slot from PT, Ingram, Khiry, Cadet or FB Erik Long. But I said the same thing about Khiry and Cadet last year and look where they are today. So Flanders could very well make the PS and work his way up from there.

Surprise cut: Joe Morgan or Nick Toon. If Cooks and Stills continue to develop, Morgan is replaceable (especially if he is slow to recover from his injury). If Toon doesn't show real progress by the end of camp, he could be shown the door instead of Morgan. With the Saints likely keeping at least 6 CBs and possibly 5 safeties for Ryan's crazy secondary packages, the Saints are going to have to make some sacrifices somewhere. It's conceivable for CSP to run with just 5 active WRs, considering the amount of passes that go to Graham and the running back position.
Posted by Noplacelikehome
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:34 am to
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Dark Horse: Ramon Humber


Just curious, what's so "dark horse" about a guy who started 3 games for the Saints last season?

Dark horse: Tim Flanders
Suprise Cut: Shayne Graham
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:37 am to
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Dark horse: Tim Flanders


Good one. They will keep him or the Tulane guy.

quote:

Suprise Cut: Shayne Graham


I wouldn't be surprised. I think that Dimke kid was kicking well in OTAs.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:43 am to
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I don't think so. Has a 3 year deal, plus, the Saints are thin at Safety depth. I think he is almost a lock.



This is his first NFL contract though. 3 years is standard for a rookie. The guaranteed money is probably very low.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:55 am to
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Just curious, what's so "dark horse" about a guy who started 3 games for the Saints last season?

I meant I expect him to really break out.

I know he's not gonna get cut.
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:03 pm to
Dark horse: Dimke

Surprise cut: Cadet
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Surprise cut: Cadet

That would be absurd, after all they've talked about him.

He seemed to be lighting it up in OTA's.
Posted by BRL79
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:07 pm to
Dark horse: Vinnie Sunseri

cut: Meachem
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Surprise cut: Cadet

No way. They would at least try to get a late rounder in a trade for him during preseason. Kid has some talent and he's not completely green, and I guarantee there will be some team (like the Cards this year) who are desperate for someone to run the ball.
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:17 pm to
He has no real regular season experience. Hardly worth a draft pick.. Maybe a 7th rounder if it's a really desperate team. Totally different from the Ivory situation where he had done real things in live game situations.

I just don't see it with him. And even if I did, it wouldn't matter. He's buried on the depth chart. Too much talent at other positions to keep guys who will really never have a chance to play.

The only way he could be an impact guy who is worth a spot is if he stands out in KR game.
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:22 pm to
I don't think he's buried on the depth chart. He's the only one with any real professional KR experience, that counts for something. We kept Roby on the roster for how long? Just to be a KR guy for the majority of his career. Since we'll probably lose Ingram after this year, I doubt they'll be willing to let him go so easily. Also, he is the most transition-able RB that we have into Sproles' role.

Also we never know what can happen in camp, you could be deep at one spot, have a stupid injury where Ingram gets payback from Butler, and he's out for the season. I hope not, just saying - running back is the newest, most under-appreciated position until you don't have a running back. 2010 anyone? Didn't we bring some guy from FA for that Seattle game where the last experience he had was playing for Florida?
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:31 pm
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