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PFF's pre-Combine Top 42 prospects in the draft
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:50 pm
1 Myles Garrett Edge 1 Texas A&M
2 Jonathan Allen DI 1 Alabama
3 Derek Barnett Edge 2 Tennessee
4 Dalvin Cook RB 1 Florida State
5 Mike Williams WR 1 Clemson
6 Corey Davis WR 2 Western Michigan
7 Teez Tabor CB 1 Florida
8 Reuben Foster LB 1 Alabama
9 Jamal Adams S 1 LSU
10 Mitch Trubisky QB 1 North Carolina
11 Malik Hooker S 2 Ohio State
12 Marshon Lattimore CB 2 Ohio State
13 Leonard Fournette RB 2 LSU
14 Tim Williams Edge 3 Alabama
15 Deshaun Watson QB 2 Clemson
16 Sidney Jones CB 3 Washington
17 Tre'Davious White CB 4 LSU
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2 Jonathan Allen DI 1 Alabama
3 Derek Barnett Edge 2 Tennessee
4 Dalvin Cook RB 1 Florida State
5 Mike Williams WR 1 Clemson
6 Corey Davis WR 2 Western Michigan
7 Teez Tabor CB 1 Florida
8 Reuben Foster LB 1 Alabama
9 Jamal Adams S 1 LSU
10 Mitch Trubisky QB 1 North Carolina
11 Malik Hooker S 2 Ohio State
12 Marshon Lattimore CB 2 Ohio State
13 Leonard Fournette RB 2 LSU
14 Tim Williams Edge 3 Alabama
15 Deshaun Watson QB 2 Clemson
16 Sidney Jones CB 3 Washington
17 Tre'Davious White CB 4 LSU
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:41 pm to Frank Black
List is kinda fubar
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:38 pm to Frank Black
doubt Watson or LF slide that far
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:12 am to airfernando
Even Adams
Posted on 3/2/17 at 7:41 am to JGuidry7
Not that I agree with it but their list is based on their grading system, which doesn't account for things like size and athleticism.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 7:42 am to airfernando
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doubt Watson or LF slide that far
This isn't a mock. It's a ranking.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:30 am to bonethug0108
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their list is based on their grading system, which doesn't account for things like size and athleticism.
how the hell are you grading prospects without taking into account size and athleticism?
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:51 am to Chad504boy
Using the PFF grading system.
Yeah it's shite.
Yeah it's shite.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:01 am to bonethug0108
How does a player like Myles Garrett have the PFF numbers yet he was statistically very underwhelming this year especially excluding his 4.5 sack game against UT San Antonio highschool.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:17 am to Chad504boy
What statistics are you referring to? PFF (rightfully) accounts for things like hurries because it impacts the play without registering a tangible stat.
QB may throw a pick and the only stat that shows up is an interception and the return yardage. I know hurries are tracked but they don't show up in the box score, a lot of turnovers are the direct result of a hurry. Just using that as an example. Flushing a QB into the arms of your teammate means you did a good job on that play despite not registering a stat. The Garrett hate I've always found a little strange. He has flaws like everyone else, but the guy is a physical specimen. He's basically the defensive version of Fournette.
He did register 31 sacks and 47 TFL in 3 years, that's indicative of a pretty consistent pass rusher
QB may throw a pick and the only stat that shows up is an interception and the return yardage. I know hurries are tracked but they don't show up in the box score, a lot of turnovers are the direct result of a hurry. Just using that as an example. Flushing a QB into the arms of your teammate means you did a good job on that play despite not registering a stat. The Garrett hate I've always found a little strange. He has flaws like everyone else, but the guy is a physical specimen. He's basically the defensive version of Fournette.
He did register 31 sacks and 47 TFL in 3 years, that's indicative of a pretty consistent pass rusher
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:26 am to Chad504boy
PFF isn't really stat based. They grade each play.
If they player makes a positive impact (recording a stat or not) he gets a plus for that play.
If he makes a bad play (even if he gets a tackle but it's a LB who picked the wrong hole and then ran 10 yards to get him and records a tackle) he gets a negative for that play.
If he just does his job but nothing particularly good on a play he gets neither a positive nor negative for the play.
The grading itself is super inconsistent because they have multiple people who aren't football guys doing the grading.
If they player makes a positive impact (recording a stat or not) he gets a plus for that play.
If he makes a bad play (even if he gets a tackle but it's a LB who picked the wrong hole and then ran 10 yards to get him and records a tackle) he gets a negative for that play.
If he just does his job but nothing particularly good on a play he gets neither a positive nor negative for the play.
The grading itself is super inconsistent because they have multiple people who aren't football guys doing the grading.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/2/17 at 10:01 am to Riseupfromtherubble
willing to give Garret a pass due to playing for Chavis, we had some gifted pass rushers underwhelm under him, he gives them little to no help.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 10:16 am to BilJ
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willing to give Garret a pass due to playing for Chavis, we had some gifted pass rushers underwhelm under him, he gives them little to no help.
Yep.
Chavis had the premier DE in the country and used him to play contain.
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