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re: PFF: who’s OT#1 in this draft?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:38 am to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:38 am to WicKed WayZ
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Troy Fautanu
reminds me of a saldiveri, that versatile lineman that can play several places but likely needs to stick at G.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 8:57 am
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:43 am to Chad504boy
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quote:I’ve always thought Fashanu reminds me of a saldiveri, that versatile lineman that can play several places but likely needs to stick at G.
Fashanu will be a tackle. You thinking of fuaga or fautana.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 8:44 am
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:44 am to Mpd31
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Fashanu will be a tackle. You thinking of fuaga or fautana.
your right, i was talking about fautana. not tiny hands.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:46 am to Chad504boy
Not sure about comparison. Nick was a right tackle at Old Dom. Has quick feet if a team likes to pull their guards. Olu is seen with Alt as the best pure pass protector in the draft and played LT for a major school and graded as top 10 talent.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:56 am to goatmilker
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Not sure about comparison.
i quoted the wrong name. i was meaning the washington guy Troy Fautanu.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:37 am to Chad504boy
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i was meaning the washington guy Troy Fautanu.
I think he is the top guard in the draft and I think the team that drafts him should view him that way.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:18 am to Proximo
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move up some.
frick
NO
We need a lot of young players. Not one who MAY be better than the other others in that too group.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:42 pm to St Augustine
Anyone know anything about the LT from Yale? Supposed to be really athletic but he’s from a small school. Might have a learning curve to get to NFL level
Posted on 4/5/24 at 4:16 pm to blafayette
Kiran Amegadjie
Great size too. He’s generating a lot of buzz. Seems like he could sneak into R2
Great size too. He’s generating a lot of buzz. Seems like he could sneak into R2
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:11 pm to Pels_Yaz
Project Peat ain’t coming back here!
Posted on 4/7/24 at 2:10 am to St Augustine
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Not one who MAY be better than the other others in that too group.
Olu is THE consensus LT, it is not a may proposition
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:12 am to Proximo
Was looking more into these OTs, found these write ups from OL guru Duke Manyweather. These are the guys who have been working out at his facility. It's a little dated, from late January.
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Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Fashanu is the top NFL prospect on the OL Masterminds’ roster this year, and he’s also the top-ranked offensive lineman in this draft for several teams. How does he stack up against some of the other highly drafted linemen who’ve worked with Manyweather ahead of recent drafts, like Rashawn Slater, Creed Humphrey, Tyler Smith and Peter Skoronski?
“I think he’s right up there at the top, in terms of total package,” Manyweather said. “He reminds me of two guys. Physically, he reminds me of Tyron Smith. His demeanor and mindset, in terms of being cerebral and being an elite thinker, remind me of Rashawn Slater. Their makeup is very similar in that regard.”
The feedback from NFL scouts on Fashanu is a little split, which says more about the high-end talent at the position than the Penn State prospect himself. But Manyweather was encouraged by Fashanu’s development this season.
“I saw him make a jump in his run blocking, especially when you throw on the Michigan tape,” Manyweather said. “He had one rough game versus Ohio State, and that was more of a communication and eye-discipline issue and how it relates to picking up twists and different pressures. But that’s all coachable and fixable. I think his best football is ahead of him.”
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Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
“Oh man, we haven’t even scratched the surface with this guy,” Manyweather said, chuckling.
With his size, length and movement skills. Mims is a one-of-one type of player. He looks and moves differently than just about everyone else at the facility. But with only eight career college starts, his body of work doesn’t match the raw traits.
For Manyweather and his team, Mims’ training is about building a complementary skill set to match his unbelievable physical gifts.
“He’s so freaky and young,” Manyweather said. “But he’s also a smart football guy with a strong work ethic. We want to lay a groundwork of fundamentals and tools that will stay with them in any situation that they go to in the pros. I want guys to understand their superhero powers and build around that.
“And Mims has a lot of that — a lot to build around with what he has already.”
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Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
In terms of size and length, Paul is one of the most impressive players in the 2024 NFL Draft. At 6-foot-7 and 310 pounds, he has ridiculous arm length (36 1/4 inches) and wingspan (86 3/4 inches) and has always relied on his length to out-leverage opponents. But it won’t be that easy in the NFL, so Paul has been focusing on the fundamentals in Frisco.
“Stance and hands were the biggest things we wanted to work on with Patrick,” Manyweather said. “(We’re) getting these guys to understand that the more you can do with your hands, the better. It starts with a great stance because effective hand usage comes from efficient feet — and you can’t have efficient feet if you don’t have a functional stance. That was the starting point for us with Patrick.”
Paul will be in Mobile, Ala., for the Senior Bowl, and it will be interesting to see if the focus-on-fundamentals approach starts to show during one-on-one drills.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:57 am to GynoSandberg
Its a good thing when a tackle LT or RT gives up zero sacks on the year in a major conference.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:20 pm to GynoSandberg
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“I saw him make a jump in his run blocking
I think it was PFF who said that he should be productive in an outside zone team even with his run blocking issues, which works for us.
They said he had some of the bets pass pro footwork they've ever seen as well. I like him over Alt.
Other than Alt or Fashanu, I don't really like the OTs for our 1st rounder
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:34 pm to Proximo
Alt
Fashanu
Latham
Is how I rank the top 3.
No chance at Alt and I do not think Fashanu makes it past the Titans at #7. So if Fashanu is the guy that like then I'd be ok with going up the 6th to get him.
I wouldn't give up the 45th so it would likely be the 14th and next years 1st to do it in some package that get's us back a 3rd this year too.
6th and 70th 2025 late pick
for the 14th . and 2025 1st. (likely to be 14-20)
the value chart doesn't' quite match up but it says the giants should send more back to us ( ~300PTS)
Fashanu
Latham
Is how I rank the top 3.
No chance at Alt and I do not think Fashanu makes it past the Titans at #7. So if Fashanu is the guy that like then I'd be ok with going up the 6th to get him.
I wouldn't give up the 45th so it would likely be the 14th and next years 1st to do it in some package that get's us back a 3rd this year too.
6th and 70th 2025 late pick
for the 14th . and 2025 1st. (likely to be 14-20)
the value chart doesn't' quite match up but it says the giants should send more back to us ( ~300PTS)
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:04 pm to Proximo
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Olu is THE consensus LT, it is not a may proposition
Right because top projected players always have better careers than the guys ranked slightly below them.
We don’t have the ammo and we need a lot of players.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:07 pm to Snipe
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So if Fashanu is the guy that like then I'd be ok with going up the 6th to get him.
I’d melt. This team is not just an OT away from contending. No need to keep giving up future draft picks unless it’s for a QB you believe is a franchise guy.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:25 pm to St Augustine
Slightly below? Are you joking? The rest behind him are RT’s and/or projects
I’d be fine trading next year’s 2nd to go to 10ish range
I’d be fine trading next year’s 2nd to go to 10ish range
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:36 pm to Proximo
Fun to talk about but this year as we all know to trade into the top if the draft is extremely high in cost. I mean your competing with teams desperate to get a QB. Hell if you are paying that cost might as well grab the QB 
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:43 pm to Proximo
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I’d be fine trading next year’s 2nd to go to 10ish range
Good chance that’s a high second or likely at least top half(and it would likely take a bit more given the movement for QBs). Those other players are first round graded players so yes slightly lower is accurate. If we give up a high draft pick with the dearth of young talent on this team Mickey should be run out of town.
The days of moving up for ANYONE besides a franchise qb need to fricking end. We’re not one,two or six players away from being a real contender at this point.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 5:45 pm
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