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OT- Sort of...How can Tom Brady and New England not have cap trouble?

Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted by kjanchild
Member since Jan 2005
3958 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:50 pm
I don't understand how they can have a 100 million plus QB and not have the same problems that the Saints have. Amazing how they just keep on keeping on!
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:52 pm to
Because they don't give in and pay out huge contracts to over valued players.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:04 pm to
Because they actually build cheap depth through their drafts unlike the Saints. They usually offload veterans when they're past their prime and don't pay many huge contracts.
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Tigerclassof19
Member since Mar 2015
861 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:05 pm to
They cheat
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10049 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:06 pm to
They find gems in mid to late rounds every year
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:10 pm to
Brady's salary isn't guaranteed for skill and injury, just injury only, i.e. he doesn't get his whole salary if he's cut, only if he's injured.

It's a subtle accounting rule that gives them cap flexibility elsewhere. I read about it somewhere and essentially of his $20 million average salary, only $7 million is guaranteed, so there's no big guaranteed money counting against the cap on top of salary.

While Brady and Brees make roughly the same each year, Brees counts about 50% more against the cap because the guaranteed money adds another layer to his cap figure to recognize the $37 million given up front as a guarantee.

Brady is in the midst of a 4-year contract worth $78 million, $28 million guaranteed, versus Brees' 5-year $100 million, $37 million guaranteed.
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10188 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:16 pm to
Because they don't have fricking Loomis
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

It's a subtle accounting rule that gives them cap flexibility elsewhere


This is incorrect. It had no impact on the cap at all. He actually received $1 million more

It gave Kraft money out of escrow
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278418 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:24 pm to
because they dont have a frickboy like mickey loomis
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:47 pm to
Because they're one of the best run teams in the league from top to bottom. They know when to move on from players and they get guys that fit their system, pure and simple. Their offensive line has changed I don't even know how many times this season and it doesn't make a damn difference. Then look at the guys they bring in.

CB Malcolm Butler
LB Jonathan Freeny
S Duron Harmon
CB Logan Ryan
WR Keshawn Martin
DT Akiem Hicks (Whom they got for a backup TE)

Personally, I just think it's all about attitude and a mindset. You go in there and you're part of a winning franchise, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick compete in every phase of the game and I think it just filters on down.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:02 am to
They only hold onto a handful of veterans that get paid. Someone like colston who is a fan favorite here and got a relatively friendly contract at the time would not be someone who the patriots have kept the past few years. They let players like Vereen and ridley, who were staples of their rb Corp walk. We resigned Ingram (good value), but we made the mistake of signing Spiller.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 2:20 am to
I can remember the days when Mickey was highly praised around here
















Like three years ago
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:45 am to
They let alot of folks due big contracts walk and plug in with their own drafted guys.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:19 am to
quote:

They find gems in mid to late rounds every year
The Patriots actually aren't the greatest drafters.

Regardless, there's no reason to constantly compare ourselves to the best run team in the NFL.
Belichick is a once-in-a-lifetime find.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:04 am to
New England Patriots:

Total Cap Number: $147,895,420 (Top 51: $147,431,864)
Offense: $73,665,976 Defense: $59,516,587 Special: $6,387,500

New Orleans Saints:
Total Cap Number: $160,530,043 (Top 51: $159,180,043)
Offense: $76,120,123 Defense: $62,973,185 Special: $5,340,000
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:36 am to
31 other NFL orgs are trying to figure it out bro cause there is NE and then everyone else.
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:43 am to
People can and do get worse at their jobs. Loomis has too much job security and it really shows in his outlandish decision making as of late. In the real job world and also within the competent Nfl franchises, you don't get to have 3 bad years before you get heat or lose your job. This is the NFL, the hate is warranted when you suck at your job as bad as Loomis has the past 3 years.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22800 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:11 am to
Yeah it is all because we suck at drafting. The Brees contract has never been an issue. All the good QBs in the league get paid.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25939 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:46 am to
Because they don't pay free agents instead they trade rape teams like the Saints.
Posted by tigersaint26
In front of my computer
Member since Sep 2005
1509 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

New England Patriots:

Total Cap Number: $147,895,420 (Top 51: $147,431,864)
Offense: $73,665,976 Defense: $59,516,587 Special: $6,387,500

New Orleans Saints:
Total Cap Number: $160,530,043 (Top 51: $159,180,043)
Offense: $76,120,123 Defense: $62,973,185 Special: $5,340,000


Maybe I am missing something, but those numbers aren't close to adding up.

edit: did you leave off dead money?
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 10:48 am
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