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Onside Kick Every Kickoff?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:52 pm
Would this be a better idea that just allowing a team to score on the defense at will?
If the Saints recover the ball 33% of the time that's more possessions for the Saints offense to put points on the scoreboard and more time for the defense to rest. If the odds of the opposing defense scoring on the Saints is greater than recovering an onside kick, then it would make sense.
What does the ST think?
If the Saints recover the ball 33% of the time that's more possessions for the Saints offense to put points on the scoreboard and more time for the defense to rest. If the odds of the opposing defense scoring on the Saints is greater than recovering an onside kick, then it would make sense.
What does the ST think?
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 11:54 pm
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:54 pm to tzimme4
I watched a Pee-Wee team do it on Saturday...The first two kickoffs they recovered...
Why not?
Why not?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:55 pm to Tim
Posted on 9/28/16 at 12:23 am to tzimme4
I was calling for an onside kick coming out of half Monday night. First play that Atlanta ran on offense after the touchback took them to where the onside kick would have placed the ball. With our defense, you have to steal possessions. I say onside often and go for it on 4th more often as well.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 12:38 am to tzimme4
Posted on 9/28/16 at 12:54 am to Jones
Interesting, and that was before the line was moved up.
Do it a few times, get the other team in onside kick recovery formation, and then you can sky kick it too with a free shot at the returner
It has always grinded my gears when we kicked long field goals on 4th and short too.
Good thread Timmy. Unfortunately no coach would be willing to try it at this level.
Do it a few times, get the other team in onside kick recovery formation, and then you can sky kick it too with a free shot at the returner
It has always grinded my gears when we kicked long field goals on 4th and short too.
Good thread Timmy. Unfortunately no coach would be willing to try it at this level.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 12:55 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 3:16 am to TigerBait1127
I say if we fall to say 1-5 or so...we have nothing to lose and may as well do it. We ain't forcing any turnovers on defense so an onside kick is our best shot at stealing possessions.
Plus, worse case scenario the other team gets the ball at our 40 and scores quickly and their defense doesn't get a rest.
Plus, worse case scenario the other team gets the ball at our 40 and scores quickly and their defense doesn't get a rest.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:49 am to tzimme4
You're just trying to keep the Saints defense from being considered the statistically worse team in the league since they would give up about 25 yards less per drive.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:49 am to tzimme4
At this point in the history the Saints franchise, I would have to say that, however comical, that is a good idea.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:39 pm to Champagne
Good idea. Also since the other guys would have (at Times) good starting field positions the "D" stats on yards would look better.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:49 pm to tzimme4
quote:
If the Saints recover the ball 33%
If they recovered it 1/3 of the time it would be the greatest special teams feat ever.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 3:10 pm to tzimme4
Why the hell not?
Our season is done anyway. Go for 2 after every touchdown while we are at it. 4th down, go for it
Our season is done anyway. Go for 2 after every touchdown while we are at it. 4th down, go for it
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/28/16 at 3:11 pm to burdman
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If they recovered it 1/3 of the time it would be the greatest special teams feat ever.
I missed that completely
Who are we kidding, we can't even field a punt or protect on a kick
Posted on 9/28/16 at 3:14 pm to tzimme4
There have been 80 points scored in the dome so far this year in only 2 attempts by above average offenses.
We just gave up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns to 2 RBs...RBs generally receive the ball behind the LOS 90-95% of the time.
We have sported defenses ranked in the 30s for seemingly every important defensive stat 3 out of the last 4 years.
Do it.
We just gave up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns to 2 RBs...RBs generally receive the ball behind the LOS 90-95% of the time.
We have sported defenses ranked in the 30s for seemingly every important defensive stat 3 out of the last 4 years.
Do it.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 4:24 pm to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 9/28/16 at 4:27 pm to tzimme4
Gregg Easterbrook talks about this all the time. He's actually run the numbers and proved that if a team never punts, it tends to add something like 3 points per game in the long run. (It might be more but it's been a while since I read him)
Posted on 9/28/16 at 4:28 pm to Laaz2750
Posted on 9/28/16 at 4:55 pm to tzimme4
The odds of recovering a surprise onside kick are much higher than when it is expected.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:00 pm to TheWalrus
Then call a surprise onside kick each time. Problem solved.
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