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New Kiper Big Board 1/12/17

Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:04 pm
It's premium material so I can't copy all of it or link it, but here are some players from the list at positions of interest to the Saints:


1. Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

2. Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

4. Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama
Foster is a big-time inside linebacker, and he might have been Alabama's best linebacker in 2015. Yes, better than Reggie Ragland, who went in the second round to the Bills in the 2016 draft and whom I had as the No. 24-ranked prospect. Foster (6-1, 240) has more range, runs sideline to sideline and is a more complete player. He's a terrific blitzer, too, and recorded five sacks this season. Expect him to follow in the footsteps of inside linebackers from Alabama who have gone in the first round, such as Rolando McClain, Dont'a Hightower and C.J. Mosley.

6. Jamal Adams, S, LSU

7. Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
Thomas, only a third-year sophomore, was one of the best defenders in the Pac-12 in 2016, and he's the biggest riser on this edition of the Big Board. He plays like a veteran, causing disruptions in both the running and passing games. He had eight sacks this season while playing end, but at 6-3, 270 pounds, he could move inside and play tackle, too. The versatility is what stands out. And he has some speed -- check out this fumble return.

8. Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan

10. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

11. Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA

13. Tim Williams, OLB, Alabama

14. Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

17. Teez Tabor, CB, Florida

18. Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

19. Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida

20. Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan State

21. Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
Barnett was stellar after a slow start to the season. He had 13 sacks, and he even had an interception in a loss to Alabama. Barnett (6-3, 265) is an all-around defender who beats double-teams, makes plays in the running game and gets after quarterbacks. I see him as a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL, not a 3-4 outside linebacker, but that shouldn't hurt his value. Barnett, who had 33 career sacks, could be a top-10 pick.

22. Charles Harris, DE, Missouri

23. Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida

24. Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31535 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:12 pm to
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7. Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
Thomas, only a third-year sophomore, was one of the best defenders in the Pac-12 in 2016, and he's the biggest riser on this edition of the Big Board. He plays like a veteran, causing disruptions in both the running and passing games. He had eight sacks this season while playing end, but at 6-3, 270 pounds, he could move inside and play tackle, too. The versatility is what stands out. And he has some speed -- check out this fumble return.




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21. Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
Barnett was stellar after a slow start to the season. He had 13 sacks, and he even had an interception in a loss to Alabama. Barnett (6-3, 265) is an all-around defender who beats double-teams, makes plays in the running game and gets after quarterbacks. I see him as a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL, not a 3-4 outside linebacker, but that shouldn't hurt his value. Barnett, who had 33 career sacks, could be a top-10 pick.



I think Barnett is a guy that can come in right away and make an immediate impact, and have 10 sacks in his rookie year. But I don't think Thomas is that guy.

Thomas reminds me a ton of Cam Jordan, but I don't think he can be Cam in his first year, it might take him a little longer than it would Barnett.


If the Saints were to take Thomas, I would rather them trade down to do it. I don't think he's a top 15 pick. More like top 20-25.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7881 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:13 pm to
Where was Cam Robinson projected? He and Fournette are the only two offensive players I would consider at 11.

Barnett is going to move up and I think Peppers will move down.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9402 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:33 pm to
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Where was Cam Robinson projected?


He is very consistently being mocked 18-late 20s. Universally agreed terrible tackle class, many scouts believe he is not worth a top-15 pick.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20857 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:58 pm to
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I think Peppers will move down.



I agree; still think he is on the overrate side of things- we shall see!
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:43 am to
That's just a horrible ranking. Horrible
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:06 am to
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I don't think he's a top 15 pick. More like top 20-25.


He will definitely be gone before 20
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:22 am to
This draft is so freaking loaded on defense. I really wish we could trade someone to acquire more early round picks.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24364 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:19 pm to
Myles Garrett will be a huge bust in the NFL. He's so fricking soft.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:58 am to
Everybody ran right at Myles Garrett. LSU made him their bitch. Pass rusher who can't stop the run.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Myles Garrett will be a huge bust in the NFL.
makes only sense that Cleveland selects him #1 overall
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 2:57 pm
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