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re: Mike D's Very Early Look at the Top 52 Prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft
Posted on 6/10/17 at 1:20 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 6/10/17 at 1:20 pm to BigBrod81
some of the throws allen makes are just mind blowing. His talent level isnt in the same ballpark as Darnold. Darnold does remind me a little bit of good ole Peyton manning though
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Posted on 6/10/17 at 1:30 pm to breauxmosexual
It is obvious Darnold is more advanced in his understanding of taking what the defense gives him. He is content in checking the ball down which aids in a higher completion percentage. Allen has an absolute cannon & is more willing to take chances because of his big arm. He will try to fit the ball into smaller windows more than Darnold does but with knowledge & a better understanding of coverages, Allen can become more equipped to just checkdown when it's necessary. I'm with you, some of throws Allen makes on the run are Aaron Rodgers/Brett Favre like.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 1:43 pm to hsfolk
I think LSU's DJ Chark makes a better pro prospect than Alabama's Calvin Ridley, but of course LSU's non existent passing game has a lot to do with Chark not getting any respect. Chark is a bigger, faster WR that can flatout make plays if he had a QB that could pass.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 3:00 pm to tubucoco
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WR that can flatout make plays if he had a QB that could pass.
You can kinda argue the same thing about Ridley. Only reason he didn't have another 1000+ yard season was because of Hurts. For one Hurts deep ball still needed a lot of work. The other being Hurts sometimes didn't even scan the whole field despite Ridley being wide open.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:30 pm to tubucoco
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Chark is a bigger, faster WR that can flatout make plays if he had a QB that could pass.
Ridley ran a 10.63 100m in high school. Chark's fastest time is 11.19
21.92 to 22.36 in the 200. Ridley is considerably faster
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/10/17 at 5:06 pm to hsfolk
quote:No way in hell is he going this high given injury history.
37. Bo Scarbrough, Halfback, Alabama
ETA: Also, I'm glad, for once, that someone didn't mention Byron Cowart as a top round draft pick.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/10/17 at 7:36 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
You Alabama fans always try and prop up your athletes to be the better athletes when they are clearly not. Chark is much faster than that and has improved considerably since he's gotten stronger in college. It will come down to the pros once again to show the separation like it always does. Calvin Ridley has been an good WR in Bama's system as they throw the ball much more than LSU did under Miles, but hopefully that's about to change now. Chark is almost 6'3" and 200 pounds and can run and the pros will show it if LSU doesn't this season.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:59 am to tubucoco
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It will come down to the pros once again to show the separation like it always does
In what way? We're talking about a WR here, and Bama had two really good WRs in the NFL right now. And Julio is arguably the best WR in the league at the moment, though that is very debatable.
Either way, this thread isn't an Alabama vs LSU pissing contest. It's about next year's draft. Way too early to tell, but it's always fun to look at the prospects. I for one am excited to watch Sam Darnold at USC this year. He's got unreal talent and I wish he could somehow be the heir apparent to Brees.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:51 am to BigBrod81
I like Jake Browning Washington
Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:07 am to tubucoco
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You Alabama fans always try and prop up your athletes to be the better athletes when they are clearly not. Chark is much faster than that and has improved considerably since he's gotten stronger in college.
Got it. Let's throw times out the window and base a quantifiable metric like speed on who we like more.
Ridley was considerably faster than chark, but since chark has gotten to LSU he's gotten stronger and is now faster than Ridley. Ridley has not gotten any faster. Chark went from 11.19 to probably a 10.62 if he were to run it today. Does that about cover it? You are literally arguing against posted times. Player A runs faster than player B based on the stopwatch, it has nothing to do with propping anyone up, I just call out bullshite when I see it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:34 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
You can call it whatever you want to, a-hole, I don't care! I'm not basing my analogy off of speed any damn ways like you seem to think I am. I'm basing it off of the ole eyeball test and my eyeballs are telling me that Chark will make the better pro prospect because he's bigger and stronger and can flat out play even though his potential hasn't been tapped yet while playing at LSU. So, you can argue all the hell you want to about speed, I don't F'ing care, Chark can flat out run because he's proven it in the few big plays he's had at LSU. I said Ridley is a good lil player for y'all, but he's no Amari Cooper, so don't even attempt to go there. Being a former footballer myself I say Chark will make the better pro, and I don't give a rats arse what you say.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:39 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:And LSU doesn't, arse?? In fact I would say LSU has had more good WR's in the NFL than Alabama ever had despite their atrocious passing offense. Lol Just shut up already because I'm not trying to have this conversation either, but the Bama bullshite about y'all talent being superior is just that, bullshite.
In what way? We're talking about a WR here, and Bama had two really good WR's in the NFL right now.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:08 pm to burasjr123
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Jake Browning Washington
Browning has arm strength limitations that will come into question the closer we get to the next draft.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:25 pm to tubucoco
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but the Bama bullshite about y'all talent being superior is just that, bullshite.
Why so mad baw? Calm down. Nobody here said anything about Bama being superior in talent. You mentioned Clark was faster and he stated facts that proved he was not. That being said you very well could be right but just calm down.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:41 pm to TTsTowel
Bo is a freakish athlete but he's getting way too much hype. Especially considering his lengthy injury history.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:26 am to tubucoco
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And LSU doesn't, arse?? In fact I would say LSU has had more good WR's in the NFL than Alabama ever had despite their atrocious passing offense. Lol Just shut up already because I'm not trying to have this conversation either, but the Bama bullshite about y'all talent being superior is just that, bullshite.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:42 am to tubucoco
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but the Bama bullshite about y'all talent being superior is just that, bullshite.
Have you been asleep since 1/8/12?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 1:55 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Ridley's 40 times are all over the place, One report has him running a 4.35 Saturday Down South
Ridley's most recent 40 time is a 4.43 AL.com he ran a 4.65 at the Nike Camp ESPN as a senior in High School.
Chark was recorded running a 4.46 out of high school ESPN. Once he reported and trained with a college staff he got his time down to 4.40 NOLA.com
So, in essence, they are pretty close speed wise, but it looks like Ridley may actually time around 4.5 based on what we've seen with WRs with scattered 40 times like his.
Ridley's most recent 40 time is a 4.43 AL.com he ran a 4.65 at the Nike Camp ESPN as a senior in High School.
Chark was recorded running a 4.46 out of high school ESPN. Once he reported and trained with a college staff he got his time down to 4.40 NOLA.com
So, in essence, they are pretty close speed wise, but it looks like Ridley may actually time around 4.5 based on what we've seen with WRs with scattered 40 times like his.
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