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re: Is Jim Harbaugh a better coach than Payton?

Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:26 pm to
While I don't think Harbaugh would have given Manning full control, he did let Luck call his own plays for almost the entirety of his senior season.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:29 pm to
I know a Manning led 49ers would probably be destroying teams left and right.
Posted by lsu0309
Mexico
Member since May 2006
101 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:30 pm to
Yeah. I think he would let him do some stuff but in the end he would get real frustrated with him changing every play called. Fox doesn't care and let's him do anything he wants. I think that was the a big motivator for him
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10393 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:58 pm to
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he did let Luck call his own plays for almost the entirety of his senior season.


Jesus Christ this might be the least factually correct post in the history of tigerdroppings.

Luck left college after his RS Junior year. And Harbaugh wasn't even his coach that season.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:29 pm to
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Jesus Christ this might be the least factually correct post in the history of tigerdroppings. Luck left college after his RS Junior year. And Harbaugh wasn't even his coach that season.


You are so right. No excuses on my part. Too many drinks stretched this long day out. I think you know what I meant though. I have no idea what Coach Shaw allowed Luck to do, but Harbaugh allowed him to call his own plays during their last year together. Not the whole season, but for most of it.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9964 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:30 am to
The difference between Payton and Harbaugh was their predecessor. Mike Singletary was a defensive minded coach and he build his team Defense heavy. Jim can in and brought his offense to the fore while keeping that Defense. I.E perfect storm.

Payton had to rebuild his team from scratch and most of the players he inherited initially did not one to play outside of Joe Horn, Deuce and Gleason. The Saint rosters were a dumpster fire as the old guard had that mentality of losing in new orleans. You can't build around that, even Barry Sander quits the lion because he couldn't take losing anymore.

So..Payton is better. I would like to see Harbaugh go to Jacksonville and turn them into a powerhouse inside of a year.

John Fox however, I gotta give the man credit where credit is due, he did an amazing job at Miami.

Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21317 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:52 am to
Until recently, I would have said no. Right now though, I have to give him the edge. Too many times this year, I saw Payton outthink himself.

He did have some talent when he came to SF but Stanford was a mess when he took over there. They were coming off of a 1 - 11 season in 2006 and he lead them into the Coliseum and beat USC as a 41 point underdog the next season. That alone will always get him some respect from me.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 12:54 am
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:50 am to
He didn't get banned from the nfl and lose draft picks last year. Also, Payton had a title.
Posted by monroesaintsfan
monroe
Member since Feb 2010
309 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:32 am to
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John Fox however, I gotta give the man credit where credit is due, he did an amazing job at Miami.



Typo?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:56 am to
I say it's even. The 49ers are the saints pre huge Brees contract( so are the Seahawks). most of their money is not tied up in quarterback. They have big time expensive vet talent spread out through the whole team and a cheap QB. Wait till they have to pay those QB's.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 7:16 am to
Considering the teams both coaches inherited, it's Payton by a landslide.
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