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Is a 3-3-5 Defense best for the Saints Personnel with Fairley out for the season ?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:57 pm
DE: Jordan , Rankins
NG: Davison/Onyemata
LB: Klein, Stupar, Anzalone
CB: Lattimore, Breaux
High Safety: Marcus Williams
Strong Safety: Vacarro
Nickel: Either PJ Williams or Von Bell
For run heavy defense in this formation:
Play Bell at the Nickel and Vaccaro closer to the line of scrimmage.
For heavy pass defense in this formation:
Play PJ Williams at Nickel and blitz any of LBs.
NG: Davison/Onyemata
LB: Klein, Stupar, Anzalone
CB: Lattimore, Breaux
High Safety: Marcus Williams
Strong Safety: Vacarro
Nickel: Either PJ Williams or Von Bell
For run heavy defense in this formation:
Play Bell at the Nickel and Vaccaro closer to the line of scrimmage.
For heavy pass defense in this formation:
Play PJ Williams at Nickel and blitz any of LBs.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 8:51 am
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:02 pm to Drillingman
Considering that the biggest issue for the saints is getting pressure, I'd say no. The loss of Fairley really fricked us. I bet our draft would be different if we knew his condition before
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:05 pm to Drillingman
It's a stopgap.
It is just used to try to stop the passes from being completed.
We need actual pressure.
It is just used to try to stop the passes from being completed.
We need actual pressure.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:19 pm to Hoodoo Man
Right now it looks like only 2 down linemen can rush the passer: Jordan & Rankins
Pressure will have to come from other places if Okafor is a Bust.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:22 pm to Drillingman
Rankins isn't really built to play nose, and his skill set isn't suited to it. He's a pure 3 tech.
In a 3 man front he'd play one of the end spots (on the side with the rush backer). Davison and Onyemata would rotate nose in those packages.
All that said, I think we'll mix it up a bit but I don't see Okafor or Kikaha playing upright too often. I think they want them hand in the dirt rushing.
In a 3 man front he'd play one of the end spots (on the side with the rush backer). Davison and Onyemata would rotate nose in those packages.
All that said, I think we'll mix it up a bit but I don't see Okafor or Kikaha playing upright too often. I think they want them hand in the dirt rushing.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:25 pm to Drillingman
Don't think Rankins has the size to play the nose. He's under 290 pounds. He would probably have to be an end in a 3 man front.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:30 am to Drillingman
In today's NFL, the base defense is basically nickel, so assuming you can stop the run it should work.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:30 am to Drillingman
So where does Kikaha and Okafor fit into these plans? And Tyeler Davison is more a NT than Rankins.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 7:32 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:52 am to phutureisyic
Changes made at NG and DE.
Kihaka and okafor are back ups at defensive end to Jordan and Rankins.
Kihaka and okafor are back ups at defensive end to Jordan and Rankins.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:22 am to Drillingman
Even if you play a 3-3-5 the third LB is going to be a rush backer.
Kikaha and Okafor would rotate that spot and then you have the Mike and Will. There is no Sam on most downs in a 3-3-5.
Whether you want them to or not Kikaha and Okafor are going to combine for starter (67% or more) snaps. The Sam is only getting between 25-33% of the snaps.
Kikaha and Okafor would rotate that spot and then you have the Mike and Will. There is no Sam on most downs in a 3-3-5.
Whether you want them to or not Kikaha and Okafor are going to combine for starter (67% or more) snaps. The Sam is only getting between 25-33% of the snaps.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:25 am to bonethug0108
Also no way in hell Stupar starts over Robertson.
At the moment I'd say Klein may start at Mike (they play almost every down) and Robertson and Anzalone will rotate at Will (generally 67-75% of the snaps). T'eo and Anthony will likely get minimal snaps and be injury fills (unless one of them actually beats out Klein). Stupar and Anthony will likely split the few Sam snaps.
At the moment I'd say Klein may start at Mike (they play almost every down) and Robertson and Anzalone will rotate at Will (generally 67-75% of the snaps). T'eo and Anthony will likely get minimal snaps and be injury fills (unless one of them actually beats out Klein). Stupar and Anthony will likely split the few Sam snaps.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:03 pm to Drillingman
No I still believe Okafor, Jordan and Rankins will be able to provide pressure and try to slow down the run despite whoever is playing beside Rankins.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:52 pm to Drillingman
This might be the dumbest idea I've seen yet for the defense.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:06 pm to knowingabyss
Ok Genius......
Let's see your plan.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:04 pm to Drillingman
quote:
Let's see your plan.
4-3 base
Jordan, Rankins, Davidson/Onyemata, Okafor/Kikaha
Any combination of our best LBs
Lattimore, Vacarro, Williams , Breaux
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:57 pm to saintsfan1977
My question was posed to Knowingabyss..... whose depth of thought is probably an Abyss.
Let the "Sales Consultant" in Vermont speak for himself.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:03 pm to Drillingman
We may have to go with the 2-3-6.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:25 pm to SelaTiger
We don't have enough pass rushing linemen to run a 2-3-6 scheme.
Hehehehe
Hehehehe
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 5:42 pm
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