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If you could only fire one them...

Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:22 am
...which one would it be?

Bill Johnson
Joe Vitt
Greg McMahon


For me:

Bill Johnson
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:22 am to
Greg McMahon
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25208 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:25 am to
Vitt
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:26 am to
Such a tough question. All of them really suck arse lol, but I'm going to go with Bill Johnson. Our weak link on defense has always been the Dline. How this guy still has a job here is beyond me. So terrible. Can we get Vic Fangio please?

ETA: Evidence of Bill Johnson's suckage
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 11:28 am
Posted by Dunk47
Member since Jan 2014
1059 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:27 am to
Bill Johnson

Vitt isn't horrible

McMahon has improved penalties a bit.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:27 am to
Probably Johnson.

At least Vitt is Assistant Coach, too.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11590 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:27 am to
This feels like an exercise from a Saw movie....
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:29 am to
Joe Vitt

Bill Johnson got a few good years out of Will Smith, Cam, Hicks, Junior
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:32 am to
Either Bill Johnson or Greg McMahon. It would probably depend on who the replacement was.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Bill Johnson got a few good years out of Will Smith, Cam, Hicks, Junior

2009 - 25th in yards allowed / 13th in sacks

2010 - 4th in yards allowed / 19th in sacks

2011 - 24th in yards allowed / 20th in sacks

2012 - 32nd in yards allowed / 26th in sacks

2013 - 4th in yards allowed / 4th in sacks

2014 - 31st in yards allowed / 25th in sacks

1 good year, 1 okay year, 4 mediocre years. Try again
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:33 am to
Let's play frick/Marry/Kill
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36423 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:34 am to
Bill Johnson
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:34 am to
Frick - McMahon
Marry - Vitt
Kill - Johnson
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10561 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:34 am to
D.) Loomis
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:35 am to
quote:

1 good year, 1 okay year, 4 mediocre years. Try again


Was I talking about the defense as a whole... or certain players?

Reading is essential, bro.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:37 am to
Too bad Payton doesn't treat his coaches with the same strategy as his players. When a player sucks or underperforms or hurts the team, he gets cut or traded. With the coaches, he just lets them do what they want.

The Saints have had good LBer play maybe two seasons at best in Payton's tenure here, yet Vitt is still on staff. People can complain about lack of talent at the position, yet our OL coach Kromer used 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round draft picks to make strong OL while he was here.

Johnson is just horrible, and people forget how much Greg Williams blitz calls (although they burned us at times) helped our mediocre to bad pass rush get chances.

McMahon has been atrocious outside of lucking into Morestead. Imagine if we had a mediocre punter.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:37 am to
quote:

or certain players?

Well, those certain players landed us, again:

2009 - 13th in sacks

2010 - 19th in sacks

2011 - 20th in sacks

2012 - 26th in sacks

2013 - 4th in sacks

2014 - 25th in sacks

Like I said, not good enough.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Kill - Johnson
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11281 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:45 am to


Bill needs to go.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:45 am to
quote:

1 good year, 1 okay year, 4 mediocre years. Try again


Look at our rush defenses in that time:

2009 - #21
2010 - #16
2011 - #12
2012 - #32
2013 - #19
2014 - #29
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