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If Jonathan Allen drops to 11
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:08 pm
do you take him even w/ his injury concerns?
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:10 pm
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:11 pm to Chad504boy
Is he big enough to play DE in a 4-3?
I looked it up, he's stouter than I thought. 6'3" 286 lbs. Just seems like a weird fit to me, but I guess not.
I looked it up, he's stouter than I thought. 6'3" 286 lbs. Just seems like a weird fit to me, but I guess not.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:13 pm to hsfolk
Absolutely! Take anyone from bama, who cares about his past injuries!
Former bama players will make the saints great again!
Former bama players will make the saints great again!
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:14 pm to hsfolk
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do you take him even w/ his injury concerns?
Depends if we re-sign Fairley. If we do, no cause it's not a need and we have depth there. If not, then he's definitely in the conversation.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:14 pm to ColeLSU
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Is he big enough to play DE in a 4-3?
Ummm... yes. How big do you think 4-3 ends need to be?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:15 pm to Broken Ear Glen
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Depends if we re-sign Fairley
So is he a DT??? I apparently have zero clue what this guys position is. I was think 3-4 OLB, then DE, now DT.....???
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:17 pm to hsfolk
I'd like to better understand the injury concerns.
If he falls to 11, something tells me there is a significant problem...like losing a season or chronic injury potential.
If he falls to 11, something tells me there is a significant problem...like losing a season or chronic injury potential.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:18 pm to ColeLSU
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3-4 OLB
He's 6'3" 291lbs.
A lot of people aren't sure if he's a DE or really undersized DT. He's not a super speed rusher and he isn't built like a JPP, for instance.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:19 pm to hsfolk
I'd rather have Barnett if he's still there. If we somehow acquire 2 first round picks then I sure as hell wouldn't mind taking Allen with one.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:20 pm to Fun Bunch
imagine moving Allen inside w/ Rankins and getting a potential DE at 18 (should Saints get it from Titans)
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:23 pm to hsfolk
Allen can play end for 2 downs and move inside on 3rd downs theoretically speaking.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:31 pm to moneyg
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I'd like to better understand the injury concerns.
This. The guy was sure fire top 5 pick. If he drops to 11, and DL was an area of need for any of the 6-10 teams ahead of us, I'd want to pass as well.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:32 pm to hsfolk
He won't fall all the way to 11.
Even if he does that means some better fits will be available. He's a 3-4 DE not a 4-3
Even if he does that means some better fits will be available. He's a 3-4 DE not a 4-3
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:35 pm to WicKed WayZ
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He's a 3-4 DE not a 4-3
No
He's scheme versatile. He's actually very very large for being a 3-4 DE. His body type is more suited to being a 4-3 3-tech but he could play 1-tech with his strength and athleticism. He's everything that everyone thought Rankins was/is/could be.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:41 pm to rmnldr
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He's scheme versatile
Apparently, bc everyone has their own ideas about him. He played standing up on the edge at Bama some. I remember that. Now hes projected NFL DT..... weird
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:44 pm to rmnldr
Well where is he going to play if Fairley isn't resigned?
You trying to tell me the Saints are predicting Allen to drop so they're saying frick you Fairley?
You trying to tell me the Saints are predicting Allen to drop so they're saying frick you Fairley?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:44 pm to ColeLSU
At Bama he's been a 2 gap and 1 gap player. He's also been nose, DE, DT, and even stood up.
He's just an overall freak athlete. If he slides to 11 (and his injury isn't viewed as debilitating) then you draft him.
Isn't? 1 tech or 3 tech. It really doesn't matter with him. He'll just whoop the arse of whoever is in front of him
Whaaaa..? I don't know anything about Fairley and resigning. He's a solid DT but I don't think he's the center of gravity for the Saints defense in the future.
He's just an overall freak athlete. If he slides to 11 (and his injury isn't viewed as debilitating) then you draft him.
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Well where is he going to play if Fairley isn't resigned?
Isn't? 1 tech or 3 tech. It really doesn't matter with him. He'll just whoop the arse of whoever is in front of him
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You trying to tell me the Saints are predicting Allen to drop so they're saying frick you Fairley?
Whaaaa..? I don't know anything about Fairley and resigning. He's a solid DT but I don't think he's the center of gravity for the Saints defense in the future.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:50 pm to rmnldr
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He's just an overall freak athlete
the NFL combine proved that to be FALSE
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:52 pm to rmnldr
You're not getting it. The Saints aren't going to risk not signing Fairley Judy because Allen MIGHT fall.
Allen is a freak, no question or doubt about it. But Fairley just had a very productive season and you know you can at least sign him back. Why risk not signing him? What if Allen doesn't fall? Then you don't have anyone to play beside Rankins.
And yeah you could sign Fairley and draft Allen but we can't play 3 DTs. And I'm sure Allen would eventually take over so then we'd be paying Fairley for nothing.
Allen is a freak, no question or doubt about it. But Fairley just had a very productive season and you know you can at least sign him back. Why risk not signing him? What if Allen doesn't fall? Then you don't have anyone to play beside Rankins.
And yeah you could sign Fairley and draft Allen but we can't play 3 DTs. And I'm sure Allen would eventually take over so then we'd be paying Fairley for nothing.
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