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re: If Collins is there in the 7th do you take him?

Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Think of all the bad local press he would get if he didn't sign with the Saints.


That is by far the least of his problems

And our local media blows so I wouldn't give a shite if I were him.
Posted by drjeff17
lake charles, la.
Member since Aug 2008
1109 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:20 pm to
It's not rocket science. If he's not drafted then free agency is his only option. Can't re enter. If he's drafted and doesn't sign he can re enter draft last year. Can't draft him unless he would agree to a deal ahead of time. Otherwise I'd give him a good signing bonus and take him as a free agency.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17527 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:24 pm to
Hes already said he wont sign as a last day pick, nobody will waste a pick on someone that wont sign. I hate it for him, but he, or his agent did this. If it was his agents idea, I would fire him on the spot. He made a situation where his only way to get to the NFL is to go undrafted.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53716 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:45 pm to
If you contact him first and he agrees to sign, then absolutely.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33983 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:56 pm to
draft him so no one can negotiate with in case he changes his mind.
Posted by GeauxTigers6447
Member since Nov 2014
179 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
Absolutely - draft him but expect to pay 2nd round money
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17527 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:04 pm to
If you called me, I'd agree to sign, then change my mind after im drafted. Might be an as whole thing to do, but we're talking about millions of dollars.
Posted by saintsalwaysnumber1
Newport news Va
Member since Dec 2008
1372 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:14 pm to
He is got to be guilty of something. He might not of done it but he might have something to do with it. Just because he is LSU doesn't mean he isn't guilty. If no teams draft him must mean something in his personality make you think he had something to do with the crime. If he gets cleared you best believe the city will get sued for costing him money and he will win and he will not want nothing to do with new Orleans.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53716 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:21 pm to
Are you implying that New Orleans would be sued?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:22 pm to
That mutha is high
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:23 pm to
I haven't seen an answer to that, but I really don't think they're gonna shell out anything more than typical UDFA money to a guy where this is all still up in the air
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66358 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

I haven't seen an answer to that, but I really don't think they're gonna shell out anything more than typical UDFA money to a guy where this is all still up in the air


i believe there is a cap

you can only make rookie minimum and you can't get a singing bonus over 75K

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56366 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

quote: @RapSheet: Source on La’El Collins: If Collins is not drafted, he becomes a free agent. With no eligibility, he will not be eligible for another draft


This is why what his agent said was so stupid. If he wanted to enter the draft next year...he needed to be drafted.

Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:27 pm to
His agent has screwed him exponentially more every day since Wednesday with every new sliver of story advancement
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:08 pm to
As others mentioned before, he's not signing any contract and will most likely enter next draft. Even if innocent I'd wager the saints are still not going to draft or sign him especially with how the NFL is handling the rash of high profile felony crimes including a serial rapist, Darren Sharper. And that's IF he is innocent.


Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:14 pm to
Well now that he has no draft eligibility, I think the Saints have a great shot at signing him as UDFA. If you have to be screwed the first few years, do it at home.

At the same time, give him guarantees. Like if starter after year two he can void contract and become FA or something.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:24 pm to
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At the same time, give him guarantees. Like if starter after year two he can void contract and become FA or something.



Aren't udfa contracts also structured by the cba
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:32 pm to
At that point, I say you let him become a FA because you still should not take the risk he might be indicted for murder.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:50 pm to
This isn't the old style baseball draft.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

As others mentioned before, he's not signing any contract and will most likely enter next draft.


He cannot.

quote:

@Gil_Brandt
If La'el Collins goes undrafted, he's a FA --> CANNOT go back into draft.

If he gets drafted and does not sign --> CAN re-enter in 2016.
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