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re: I can no longer pull for the Saints or its admin

Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90479 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:23 pm to
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Good, GTFO.
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3407 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:23 pm to
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Your whole OP involved crying and freaking out.

This.

If this happened to the Falcons. I would be happy because they would have the possibility of losing draft picks, I would not be calling them thugs. Although 8 out of 10 people playing in the NFL are really thugs, just not because they pay each other to hit rivals harder. BTW I wouldnt call yourself a fan, any real fan would support the orginization in a time like this no matter what they had done. Think of it as being your child doing this, would you call him or her a thug and shun them?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:25 pm to
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Or if atl would have INTENTIONALLY INJURED brees while participating in the same scheme
name one player the saints intentionally injured by an illegal action
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:25 pm to
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So, if someone has the intent to speed but never does is he guilty of speeding?


Not the same thing at all. Maybe if someone had the intent to speed and run someone over and never did.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5564 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:25 pm to
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countryboy2
Do you have anything Saintswise you'd like to get rid of? I'd sure loke some more stuff!
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:26 pm to
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I can think of no times when a football player deserved to be called a hero during a game.
you obviously didnt see when tom brady killed 3 terrorists while throwing an 80 yard bomb to welker
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:27 pm to
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countryboy2


Good riddance. You must have become a fan in 2006 like so many others.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
4819 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:27 pm to
Exactly, so if anything people can just choose to not like the saints anymore as people but I hardly think they did anything illegal or worthy of penalties.

If people think everyone on any NFL team is a "high character" guy then they are fooling themselves.

This didn't give them an unfair advantage, and again, no opposing player missed any time.
This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3407 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:31 pm to
at least no one on our team killed any animals in the process. Michael Vick scarred the Falcons franchise for a very long time.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:32 pm to
I wouldn't expect any Saints fans to suddenly turn on their team. But everyone has to acknowledge that paying guys to get other players carted off the field crosses a line.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:32 pm to
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Michael Vick scarred the Falcons franchise for a very long time.



I disagree. I think he scarred himself. Can't see the Falcons deserve any of the blame.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:36 pm to
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But everyone has to acknowledge that paying guys to get other players carted off the field crosses a line.


No we don't. Paying guys to knock other players out of the game through extralegal means or dirty tactics I would say is out of line. If it comes out that that was the case then I will absolutely condemn it.

But delivering legal hits that knock a player out of the game? That's what football is.

I remember when there was some controversy over somebody talking about knocking Tebow out of the game. Someone on LSU as I recall. I had no problem with that either as it was about delivering legal shots.

Bama fans and the media were bragging on Bama's D at one point for knocking so many quarterbacks out of games. I had no problem with that either.

They broke rules with the bounty thing, but it's not anything that I am going to condemn as immoral.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:42 pm to
I think my problem is that rewarding a big hit is one thing, but rewarding a player specifically for having a guy carted off the field is a whole other issue.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
4819 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:47 pm to
And that's what I hope to see in these "18,000 pages of documents". I want to see exactly what amounts were offered for which things and I also want to see who collected because, for the upteenth time I've said this, no one was carted off. The bounty system has been acknowledged however I need more proof that it was for these so called "cartoffs" as opposed to just big hits, INTs, etc as Sharper claims.
Posted by tigers444
Member since Jun 2009
3083 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:49 pm to
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I can no longer pull for the Saints
quote:

I was a saints fan


FIFY. And glad to have one less bandwagon fan.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:52 pm to
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think my problem is that rewarding a big hit is one thing, but rewarding a player specifically for having a guy carted off the field is a whole other issue.


I don't see why. It's a logical correlation and positive result of a big hit. If I knock a starter out of the game with a big hit, I help our team win the game. The only issue is are the hits illegal/malicious? If you go for a guy's knee or joints to injure, that is something different in my mind. A clean pop on a receiver over the middle or on Kurt Warner while he's trying to tackle a ball carrier is different IMO. Why do you think teams value big hits? To hurt and put fear in the other team.

If you twist ankles or gouge in a pile you are being a scumbag IMO.
Posted by Big D of the LC
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
1031 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:53 pm to
Last I checked defenders get paid lots of money to knock the shyt out of offensive players...Its called football and its a byproduct of the game
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:54 pm to


GTFO
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:55 pm to
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Oh he trollin and yall bit hard

Posted by 504hornets
Member since Dec 2011
762 posts
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:57 pm to
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So you guys condone this type of shite?? Exactly the problem with pro sports. These guys were paid to injure players


Dude in the 80s and early 90s this was the type of football played on daily basis
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