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re: I blame offensive play calling more than defensive.

Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
That comment makes no sense considering I admitted to having an irrational hatred of him. How is that me taking stuff personally? I said ignore my comments about him.
Posted by wayne5w
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2014
404 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
Then you are a moron. While offense sucked, defense was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:06 pm to
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He's the same guy who thought Keenan Lewis was a horrible addition last year...halfway through the season.


WTF? I said when teams had a third and long and converted, it seemed to be against Lewis. I said Greer looked like he played tighter coverage than Lewis. Then I admitted that I was just basing this off of the plays I saw, not taking into account the plays we don't see.

With rb's, we see every run. And it's a fact that even going back to last year, most of Ingram's nice runs, he isn't getting touched until he's 10 yards pass the line.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:10 pm to
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WTF? I said when teams had a third and long and converted, it seemed to be against Lewis.



No you didn't. Do you really need me to embarrass you again?
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:10 pm to
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With rb's, we see every run. And it's a fact that even going back to last year, most of Ingram's nice runs, he isn't getting touched until he's 10 yards pass the line.


This is just flat out wrong, no matter how many times your dumbass repeats it.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:11 pm to
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With rb's, we see every run. And it's a fact that even going back to last year, most of Ingram's nice runs, he isn't getting touched until he's 10 yards pass the line.



Didn't ingram face more 8-9 boxes, % wise, than any other RB in the NFL last season?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:17 pm to
Yes, please show me where I said Keenan Lewis was a horrible addition. I honestly don't remember saying that. But again, I did admit to judging Lewis the wrong way. And I said multiple times I have an irrational hatred of Ingram. Do you guys know what that's means? It means I just don't like him.

Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:21 pm to
How about you watch the replay of the game. Watch Ingram's best runs, and watch how great the blocking is for him. It's that simple. No need to argue. Then watch Khiry either getting hit in the backfield, or squeezing through a small hole and spinning and making people miss in traffic.
Posted by Tigers2010
Member since Nov 2008
8804 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:25 pm to
Just stop. Robinson definitely left yards out there, you obviously hate Ingram
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84070 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:26 pm to
You've repeated it a million times, and it's still wrong. You're a dumbass. At least you can admit to the irrational hatred, but that doesn't give you a pass to just make shite up.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:28 pm to
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I think Lewis has played better this year



You:

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously, Greer is constantly knocking balls away or contesting even completed passes. Lewis is usually coming running in after his guy catches a pass with no one around him. I just don't know what you are watching.

But according to you, interceptions make cb's good, and Greer apparently left his guy open on that last play. That pretty much says everything about how you see things.



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You really are a moron aren't you? As I said earlier, even if Greer's man catches the pass, he is usually at least in the vicinity of his wr, and usually trying to make a play. You just compared Greer getting beat by a push off and great throw to Lewis leaving guys wide open.

Just to be clear, just because the defense has been playing great, doesn't mean every individual on that defense has been playing great. Lewis has been struggling from game one. Hell, even in preseason he struggled.




And have more, backed up with stats that you argued, but I just want to see your response first



This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:29 pm to
I love this board. I said watch the tape. I said no need to argue. I admitted I have an irrational hatred of Ingram and to ignore my comments. You guys are crazy. All I'm saying is the o-line opens huge holes for the guy, which is true. Why is that such a horrible thing to say? Isn't that what you want from the o-line?
Posted by Tigers2010
Member since Nov 2008
8804 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:31 pm to
Why do you hate Ingram?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:33 pm to
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I said no need to argue. I


I wouldn't want to argue either if I was you

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All I'm saying is the o-line opens huge holes for the guy, which is true.


Maybe so, what about the last few years? The stats don't back that up

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. I admitted I have an irrational hatred of Ingram and to ignore my comments.


So, if your point is irrelevant due to bias, don't make it,.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:35 pm to
Right, so where did I say he was a horrible addition? I admitted I was basing that off the couple plays I saw where that happened, without taking into account the good coverage he must have had on other plays I wasn't seeing. I realized my error in how I was judging him.

I admit when I am wrong, but when I know I'm right, I don't care how many people try to say I'm wrong. Again, just watch the replay of the game. Watch his best runs and tell me at what point a defender touches him.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84070 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:36 pm to
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I said watch the tape


It seems you need to watch it. You're wrong. Like really wrong.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Right, so where did I say he was a horrible addition?


I'm sorry, you didn't say he was a horrible addition, you said:

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Lewis has been struggling from game one. Hell, even in preseason he struggled.



So he was a struggling addition
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:41 pm to
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Maybe so, what about the last few years? The stats don't back that up


You mean the last few years when he looked like a bust? You just proved my point. But yeah, I'm a moron.

And I didn't realize stats were able to show that I'm wrong about the great blocking he gets on most of his nice runs. I thought stats just showed the result of the blocking, not what kind of blocking he got.

Just because I'm biased doesn't make me wrong. It just means that I know many people will disagree with me because it's not a popular opinion, which I'm fine with.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:42 pm to
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You mean the last few years when he looked like a bust? You just proved my point. But yeah, I'm a moron.

And I didn't realize stats were able to show that I'm wrong about the great blocking he gets on most of his nice runs. I thought stats just showed the result of the blocking, not what kind of blocking he got.



So if he busts off a nice run = good blocking

If he has negative yards on a play = his fault

got it

quote:

But yeah, I'm a moron.


Moron is too nice

Martez Wilson spppllllliooooooge
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
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So if he busts off a nice run = good blocking

If he has negative yards on a play = his fault

got it


Not what I'm saying. You are good at spinning words out of context aren't you? I just said he isn't getting touched til he gets to the second level of the defense. I never said negative plays were his fault.

Do you think PT and Khiry are better at making something out of nothing than Ingram? I do. That's my point.
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