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How can our coaching staff/front office not recognize the OL issues?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:16 pm
is this just arrogance with the Peat pick? at the time it was criticized because of our perceived depth. now Peat looks like a super bust when we actually need him to step up and perform, and our front office refuses to do anything significant to improve our OL. it was 100% clear by the end of last year that our OL needed some talent injections and...
it is due to just completely terrible roster analysis?
it is due to just completely terrible roster analysis?
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Saints and Pelicans both gunning for the #1 overall pick.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
I do believe their story about just not ending up in a position to take a guard they liked in this last draft. I can't really explain why they didn't get one in FA, other than maybe the market was pretty shallow.
I don't think they're not recognizing the issue. I think they're just not doing a good job of getting themselves in front of it and they're trying to make do with what we have.
I don't think they're not recognizing the issue. I think they're just not doing a good job of getting themselves in front of it and they're trying to make do with what we have.
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
It really is infuriating and has been since Goodwin left
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:23 pm to Rand AlThor
They got several seemingly capable UDFA guards, but I haven't seen anything from them thus far.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:24 pm to Rand AlThor
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I do believe their story about just not ending up in a position to take a guard they liked in this last draft.
i mean there is "drafting BPA" and "completely ignoring your team's biggest area of need during the draft"
it makes no rational sense whatsoever
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I don't think they're not recognizing the issue. I think they're just not doing a good job of getting themselves in front of it and they're trying to make due with what we have.
that would possibly be acceptable if we didn't have such a shitty history
also we spent big money on a 1-dimensional TE (aka, a toy), after we completely fricked our cap up with our decisions regarding another 1-dimensional TE/toy. OH YEAH and spending even more completely wasted money on a bust at safety that we didn't really need
it is just borderline insanity
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:26 pm to Rand AlThor
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I can't really explain why they didn't get one in FA, other than maybe the market was pretty shallow.
There were 1-2 high quality, but a bunch of them were average their whole careers. Last time they spent $$$ on a OG, they got a lovely dud so I can understand their caution. I honestly would have preferred that money we used on Fleener for a guard, but I can ultimately understand why we paid Fleener as well.
This are the top 5 paid guards this offseason:
Kelechi Osemele: 5/58.5mil (11.7mil/yr)
Brandon Brooks: 5/40mil (8mil/yr)
Jeff Allen: 4/28.0mil (7.0mil/yr)
Alex Boone: 4/26.8mil (6.7mil/yr)
JR Sweezy: 5/32.5mil (6.5mil/yr)
of those guys, only Osemele and Boone were considered above average and I think Boone has declined every year since 2012. Richie Incognito would have been a nice signing, he had a really good year surrendering only 2 sacks and his contract was 3/11.5mil
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Brees essentially performed miracles behind that OL these past 2 seasons. I can't imagine how bad an average to below-average QB would have fared.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean there is "drafting BPA" and "completely ignoring your team's biggest area of need during the draft"
it makes no rational sense whatsoever
What I meant was, there was no guards available that were worth the draft slot at any of our picks. CSP said that after the draft and frankly I agree. There were several guys who were late 2nd- 3rd round type guys who were all heavily overdrafted. I agree with finding the sweet spot between BPA and need. But I personally believe they did that. There were no options.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:38 pm to Rand AlThor
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there was no guards available that were worth the draft slot at any of our picks. CSP said that after the draft and frankly I agree.
but just one year prior we use a very high pick on an OT that we don't even need? who sucks?
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I agree with finding the sweet spot between BPA and need. But I personally believe they did that. There were no options.
this thread isn't about 1 offseason
if our front office/coaches had any real concept of our OL, we'd have adequately addressed this in the 2014 and 2015 offseasons
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
its like center was for a while, they tried various patchwork things to just get by with poor to disastrous results
I still don't understand the peat pick
I still don't understand the peat pick
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Right on Pro, besides you make moves before you have issues by evaluating your situation correctly. The Saints are always reactive and not proactive.
Consider that along with their propensity to miss on high draft picks and FAs and you see why we have so many holes on the team.
For instance it seems we finally decided to rebuild on D, and now we have big holes on offense, mainly the OL and at WR.
Consider that along with their propensity to miss on high draft picks and FAs and you see why we have so many holes on the team.
For instance it seems we finally decided to rebuild on D, and now we have big holes on offense, mainly the OL and at WR.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Painkillers?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Do you really believe they don't?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:36 pm to doubleb
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and now we have big holes on offense, mainly the OL and at WR.
WR isn't that bad. It's at least middle of the pack in the NFL with a chance to be better...depending on Thomas. Our OL is what is hurting us. Nothing is uglier than a running back gaining one yard, and then getting bear hugged by 3 DLineman at the same time. We aren't getting any push at all up front. I'm hoping the oline gels as the regular season approaches, but that was pathetic last night.
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:47 pm to GMoney2600
I don't disagree, WR isn't our weakest spot.
But we really need Thomas to be the guy and that big WR Brees likes to throw to in the red zone and in short yardage.
But we really need Thomas to be the guy and that big WR Brees likes to throw to in the red zone and in short yardage.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:49 pm to doubleb
Disagree with "big holes at WR" part.
Young as hell yes but I think they will be just fine over the course of the season.
Young as hell yes but I think they will be just fine over the course of the season.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:52 pm to goatmilker
I see a hole there,not holes; however, I hope you are right and the 3 young WRs step up and deliver the goods.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Could've taken Collins last year and Tunsil this year 
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Its King Loomis duh. Just ask lester and his boys. Loomis makes all roster decisions. So all vitriol should be directed at him.
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