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Holder: it's time to fire Rob Ryan

Posted on 11/15/15 at 6:38 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25897 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 6:38 pm
Fire Fat Boy

Just about sums it up.

quote:

It's time to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. It's time for senior defensive assistant Dennis Allen to take over for the final six games this season.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:08 pm to
Frick it might as well
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117686 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:09 pm to
He'll be fired by tomorrow at this time.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28901 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:09 pm to
It's been time. Sad that Payton cannot hire a DC to save his life. Let Allen audition for the job for 6 weeks. If the D plays with a spark then give him a shot. Right now the entire D side of the ball should be fired, including the players.

Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:14 pm to
He's right. I don't really think Allen will be the answer we want, but it's worth a shot for the rest of the year.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:17 pm to
Sean is loyal to his ACs to a fault. Id say at this point it doesn't matter,Sean cant find a DC to save his life. Who wants to come here to be fired?
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4616 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:20 pm to
Brilliant! The Saints undoubtedly win out following that move.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:21 pm to
Only way we get a top DC is to make him HC. Period
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28133 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:32 pm to
Disagree.


Phillips and LaBeau say hello.

Obviously, either of those guys is a huge upgrade. And to be fair, I Think everyone on this board would settle for just an average DC.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

Phillips and LaBeau say hello


You think they'd come here

Im sure by now the word is out about Sean and how he treats his DCs. You don't get to bring in your guys, instead you have to deal with his who have been here through the past failed DCs and you get all the blame as you get zero input on personnel.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13239 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:50 pm to
Can Vitt and Johnson go with them?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28133 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:51 pm to
Yeah, I forgot about that key point as far as Payton is concerned.

My point is you van find excellent DC's w/o making them an HC.

Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:07 pm to
Off topic but am I the only one who thinks we should be running a 3-4 defense? Given our players strengths. I wanna scream everytime I see Kikaha dropping in coverage.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25897 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

You think they'd come here

Im sure by now the word is out about Sean and how he treats his DCs. You don't get to bring in your guys, instead you have to deal with his who have been here through the past failed DCs and you get all the blame as you get zero input on personnel.



He's not saying they'd come here. He was saying that you can get a great DC without offering said DC a head coach position. Do you guys read?
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

He's not saying they'd come here. He was saying that you can get a great DC without offering said DC a head coach position. Do you guys read?


Yes, and obviously better than you since the OP admitted that's where he was going when he acknowledged the key point I made was correct about Sean not allowing DCs to bring in their own guys
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:17 pm to
When I say we'll never get a good DC and someone responds with Coach Joe Blow says hello that to me means you think he would come here. Does it not?
Posted by ChurchillVFW
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
479 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:58 pm to
Holder: it's time for the entire Saints staff to kiss my hairy arse
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