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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:10 am to Zoltan
Thomas is the most dependable RB they have. Dumb if true. Can they unload Ingram on somebody?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:14 am to Zoltan
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Potentially Both
Lost all credibility right there
So they draft Ingram b/c we had no depth at RB to end the 2010 season, now we're going to unload Pierre and Ivory leaving only Ingram and Sproles?
Stupid tweet is stupid
If anyone is moved, it's Ivory. If they move Pierre, I'll start to lose faith in the FO. That would be an incredibly stupid move. Most reliable back on the team and he does everything well.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 8:15 am
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:21 am to belowmebama
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Eddie Lacy Pain Train
Yeah draft Lacy and trade Brees for Richardson.
I would be unhappy if we moved PT.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:26 am to SaintLSUnAtl
Yeah, well your credibility is lying somewhere in a ditch with it's panties around it's ankles you sick SOB.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:32 am to Patrick O Rly
I'm so hot for you right now
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:13 am to sunnydaze
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We need to move Ingram
+1 Million All Day Every Day!!!!! Ingram is the 4th best RB but gets the most touches/game over the last 2 years.
Why would the Saint trade Thomas - THEIR BEST RUNNING BACK - especially since he's not really making that much money compared relative to what he can actually do when the Saints give him the ball!!
PT is every bit as good as any RB in Saints history. He runs with power, speed, and elusiveness and shows all three when he catches a screen pass.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:15 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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Stupid tweet is stupid
Extremely stupid.
quote:
If anyone is moved, it's Ivory. If they move Pierre, I'll start to lose faith in the FO. That would be an incredibly stupid move. Most reliable back on the team and he does everything well.
This.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:17 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:it makes a lot of sense
Moving PT wouldn't make any sense. He doesn't cost much and he's probably the best screen back in the league, and we run a lot of screens.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:45 am to Chad504boy
Ivory's cap hit is around 2mil right now because of the 2nd round tender. If he is traded, that is cap space.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:46 am to Zoltan
Their words not mine haha. I completely agree that it is stupid as well. I was just taken aback hearing this only 10 days away from the draft credible or not. In the past it had been discussed (foolish or not) for some time before at least. Considering Ingram is about as useful in the passing game as the Falcons in the playoffs I couldn't see why they would get rid of him, over Ivory, especially both.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:03 am to Zoltan
I wouldn't look too much into it. I know we've "tried" to trade Thomas to New England at least 3x now.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:57 am to Shankopotomus
we need to keep pierre but save him for the super bowl.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:00 am to Zoltan
got to get rid of all these other backs so Ingram can finally get in that 20-25 carry groove where he gets more than 2 yards per carry and doesn't get tripped up by a strong wind
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:01 am to Maximus
quote:trade drew for a non-throwing qb so he can really get in that 30-35 carry groove.
got to get rid of all these other backs so Ingram can finally get in that 20-25 carry groove where he gets more than 2 yards per carry and doesn't get tripped up by a strong wind
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:09 am to Zoltan
I honestly believe the entire RB corps is available heading into the draft. Carrying all those RBs last year was ridiculous, and I can think of a number of scenarios in which guys get moved.
-Ivory as part of a deal that gets us a mid-round pick (or more)
-What if T. Austin is still there at 15? Could we not utilize a combination of him and Cadet to handle Sproles' offensive and special teams roles? Austin, of course, would impact the team in other areas, but he could help to replace Sproles among other things.
-Thomas is a sure handed runner who excels in the screen and short passing game. Also could get us a mid-rounder or more as part of a package deal (including picks). He's at a nice price as well, I'd imagine, from a cap standpoint.
-Even Ingram could make sense if a team sees him as a guy needing carries in order to be effective (Rams might want a younger "volume" RB to replace S Jax, for example.) Wouldn't expect much more than a 3-4th rounder for him, though.
EDIT-Last but not least, common sense tells me that a team that ranked 25th in rushing offense last year would consider a change at the RB position.
-Ivory as part of a deal that gets us a mid-round pick (or more)
-What if T. Austin is still there at 15? Could we not utilize a combination of him and Cadet to handle Sproles' offensive and special teams roles? Austin, of course, would impact the team in other areas, but he could help to replace Sproles among other things.
-Thomas is a sure handed runner who excels in the screen and short passing game. Also could get us a mid-rounder or more as part of a package deal (including picks). He's at a nice price as well, I'd imagine, from a cap standpoint.
-Even Ingram could make sense if a team sees him as a guy needing carries in order to be effective (Rams might want a younger "volume" RB to replace S Jax, for example.) Wouldn't expect much more than a 3-4th rounder for him, though.
EDIT-Last but not least, common sense tells me that a team that ranked 25th in rushing offense last year would consider a change at the RB position.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:19 am to ffhouston
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-What if T. Austin is still there at 15? Could we not utilize a combination of him and Cadet to handle Sproles' offensive and special teams roles? Austin, of course, would impact the team in other areas, but he could help to replace Sproles among other things
If the Saints draft Austin at 15 I will throw my TV in the woods
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:25 am to ffhouston
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common sense tells me that a team that ranked 25th in rushing offense last year would consider a change at the RB position.
You are correct.
Payton in.
Carmichel out.
Running games gets better.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:36 am to goatmilker
That coupled with the fact that our defense was historically bad which put us behind at times and forced us to abandon the run. Any defensive improvement will contribute to a better run game.
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