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re: Eleminating Kick Offs - New Rule If Imposed?

Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:06 am to
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16532 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:06 am to
I wonder how many young guys wont even get a shot to be on the team since there will be fewer special teams needs.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:10 am to
Special teams is another very exciting element of football.

This is pathetic.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:19 am to
Instead of a kickoff, it's a punt from the 30. Can someone dig up the stats on the usual starting position after a punt from the 30?

With this rule one of the best plays/ most exciting plays in sports, the the onsides kick, is eliminated from football and replaced with a 4th and 15. Can someone dig up the stats on 4th and long v. Onsides kick conversion percentage?

This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:40 am
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:40 pm to
this would have been the best time for Vince to have introduced the XFL.
Posted by Whodat1
Madisonville, LA
Member since Feb 2007
465 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:49 pm to
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"After a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it's fourth and 15," TIME's Sean Gregory writes. "The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession or punt. If you go for it and fall short, of course, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, a punt replaces the kickoffs."


I would rather that than watching kickers kick it out of the back of the endzone.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16731 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:54 pm to
i will point out that this almost guarantees a return wheras many NFL kickers today boot it out of the back of the endzone and there's zero action.

i think theres better ways to fix it than what goodell has proposed.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:05 pm to
Wouldnt this basically end the careers of many players instantly?
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:44 pm to
wussification of the game
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:59 pm to
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I like how you show up once a week to tell people how wrong you think they are


Thanks.

Feel free to think eliminating a kickoff will destroy the game and no one will watch anymore.

I'll live in reality, personally.
Posted by FleuryNipples
Member since Apr 2012
2869 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:58 pm to
It would be way easier for teams like the Saints to come back when down 2 or more scores in the final minutes.
Onside kicks are rarely ever successful.
We have a way better chance of converting 4th and 15.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 5:59 pm
Posted by WarmBubble
Member since May 2007
1891 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:49 pm to
This is so stupid. It would basically cause every punt return team to go into a safe formation to prevent a possible fake. The possibility of converting the 4th and 15 on a fake punt is way more likely than recovering a surprise onsides kick IMO. Chances would probably be also higher when the offense tries to convert the 15 yards compared with the traditional on-sides kick. Makes no sense at all.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 6:54 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:24 pm to
Does anyone have an actual statistic on what percentage of injuries in the NFL occur on kickoff returns? Do we even truly know that injuries are more likely to occur in a kickoff than any other types of plays in the NFL?

While I think it would hurt the game of football to do this, I would agree that it would move along just fine if the kickoff were to be eliminated.

That having been said, if they do eliminate it, they had better have a really damn good reason for it. This move would alter the game in some form in every aspect one could think of. It would alter game strategy, clock management, game decision making, roster size and roster management, player positions, players' jobs, coaches' jobs, etc. If they do this, they better fricking have a good reason for it.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:46 pm to
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How the frick is this moron still the commissioner? Holy shite.


this
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64213 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 10:01 am to
How has nobody in this thread realized that this is just more posturing by Roger ala the righteous indignation regarding the bounties. "well I TRIED to protect the players by eliminating the kickoff"
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64213 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 10:02 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 12/8/12 at 10:08 am
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64213 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 10:03 am to
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Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 1:17 pm to
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I also fail to see how this would improve player safety over the current rules.

Most teams would likely punt, which are also high risk plays.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 5:05 pm to
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Triple post


staug, ya don broked da intanetss
Posted by Voorhies7
Rounding 3rd
Member since Oct 2012
5591 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:50 am to
No more kick offs, no more dodge ball, time outs instead of arse whippings, cages around trampolines, all contributing factors to the wussification of America
Posted by Ranger198
Member since Oct 2012
792 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:41 am to
God I hope this does not happen, the power has gone to Rogers head
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