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re: Deion Jones: NFL defensive rookie of the month
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:01 am to deNYEd
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:01 am to deNYEd
I am not disputing that, it just made me laugh that you choose to refer to Cooks as soft considering the situation that Landry dropped the ball last night.
I don't think there is a dispute that Landry has better "hands" than Cooks. But, he does struggle with concentration issues from time-to-time (happens to the best of them) and will have a case of the drops mainly bc he tries to body too many passes.
I don't think there is a dispute that Landry has better "hands" than Cooks. But, he does struggle with concentration issues from time-to-time (happens to the best of them) and will have a case of the drops mainly bc he tries to body too many passes.
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:01 am to deNYEd
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Ok, should take a gander how many of those came on 3rd down and moved the chains.
Landry didn't finish in the top 20 of the NFL or AFC on 3rd down catches for a first in 2015.
Cooks finished 17th in the NFC with 13.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:04 am to deNYEd
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I know you don't want to do a hands comparison
Look, Landry has elite hands.
But Cooks has just 3 drops in his entire career. So while I'd give the edge to Landry, Cooks still has great hands
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He is their punt returner (all pro) bc he has little ball skills and slow as molasses
He's their punt returner because he has an awesome first step and changes direction very well. What does that have to do with his deep ball abilities? Those same skills are the reason he's a good short yardage receiver...
Football Outsider advanced stats...ouch
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:11 am to TigerBait1127
Nfl players vote to determine top 100 players in the nfl. Pretty solid list considering they are peers and actually play against each other and whatnot. Guess who is absent from that list? Guess who is not?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:12 am to deNYEd
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Nfl players vote to determine top 100 players in the nfl. Pretty solid list considering they are peers and actually play against each other and whatnot. Guess who is absent from that list? Guess who is not?
Ideally, all players would do it. This year, the league says only 481 of them actually did. That’s 28.3 percent of all active players.
You mean the same list that had Graham not on the list one year and then top 10 the next?
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But the players do some strange things, like putting Ravens receiver Jacoby Jones higher on the list than Seahawks receiver Percy Harvin. And when we pointed that out on Friday, Eagles linebacker Connor Barwin said via Twitter, “[E]veryone knows no players actually vote for who’s on that list right?” Our buddy Pat McAfee, who punts for the Colts, chimed in that he “[l]ove[s] this tweet.”
This is worse than your pro bowl crap.
Keep them coming. You've been basically wrong about everything you've posted so far.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:16 am to deNYEd
Keep showing me stats that show that Cooks is on one of best passing offenses this decade. I get it. He has a hall of fame qb. I get that. But if you would prefer cooks on your team opposed to Landry I truly believe you are delusional. I guess cooks is better than Dez Bryant bc the stats say so also
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:17 am to TigerBait1127
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This year, the league says only 481 of them actually did. That’s 28.3 percent of all active players.
right bc 481 peers is not better than a saints fanboy
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:18 am to TigerBait1127
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You mean the same list that had Graham not on the list one year and then top 10 the next?
if anything that shows how a system and stats can influence decisions and even with that cooks is an after thought.
All you did was prove my point with Graham comparison. Thanks
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:19 am to deNYEd
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But if you would prefer cooks on your team opposed to Landry I truly believe you are delusional
Yep, I'm the delusinal one year. Was Landry prom king too?
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I guess cooks is better than Dez Bryant bc the stats say so also
The last time Dez was healthy, he averaged 15 ypc and had 1300+ yards and 16 touchdowns....
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:20 am to TigerBait1127
or had a healthy qb...sure
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:20 am to deNYEd
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if anything that shows how a system and stats can influence decisions and even with that cooks is an after thought
No, it shows you don't know wtf you're talking about. Guess what, it isn't even a top 100 list.
If anything, it shows why popularity ballots are idiotic, yet it is all you have....
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:22 am to TigerBait1127
Lets look at it this way. Cooks would disappear into oblivion on the Miami roster. Tannehil could never get him the ball and he would never be as aggressive as jarvis needs to be to win balls.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:22 am to deNYEd
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or had a healthy qb...sure
When's the last time he had a healthy year with a healthy QB?
Dez was injured in the first game last season. The year before, he put up the numbers I posted.
You must watch a TON of NFL football.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:27 am to deNYEd
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Lets look at it this way. Cooks would disappear into oblivion on the Miami roster. Tannehil could never get him the ball and he would never be as aggressive as jarvis needs to be to win balls.
He'd actually greatly benefit from the shorter route system, but the Saints have guys like Snead, Thomas, Fleener, Ingram, and Cadet to take that role in the offense.
Landry doesn't have the deep ability. Still a great receiver, but it isn't something he'll ever be able to do. Other players in Miami have shown this ability.
Landry is in the perfect system for his skillset.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:35 am to TigerBait1127
You honestly think landry wouldn't thrive more in Saints or Patriots offense? You serious Clark?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:35 am to deNYEd
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You honestly think landry would thrive more in Saints or Patriots offense? You serious Clark?
The Saints and Pats don't run similar offenses.
Landry would absolutely kill in the Patriots offense.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:36 am to TigerBait1127
Landry would perform better on both
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:38 am to deNYEd
Miami's offense is admittedly built around Landry. Tannehil simply cannot get it done
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:41 am to deNYEd
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Landry would perform better on both
Landry would have way less receptions for the Saints. Not really a question. he wouldn't have your NFL record.
He may get more TDs, but we are way more vertical than most people realize.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:45 am to TigerBait1127
Don't need to look much further than his stats bw soph and junior yr at LSU to look what a dif in qb play can make. Fairly certain jarvis caught more than 5yd outs for us
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