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Concerned: Management of the running backs
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:08 pm
Is anyone concerned with the management of the running back trio we have? I like all three backs, but all three are different and each has their own individual strengths and weaknesses.
Last night, I saw that they were rotated so frequently that it would be impossible for any back to get in a rhythm. No running back can ever "get in a zone" when they go in for a play or two and are then subbed out.
Thoughts? Am I making too big of a deal out of this?
Last night, I saw that they were rotated so frequently that it would be impossible for any back to get in a rhythm. No running back can ever "get in a zone" when they go in for a play or two and are then subbed out.
Thoughts? Am I making too big of a deal out of this?
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:11 pm to 12Pence
I think you've put more thought into it than Sean already.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:11 pm to 12Pence
Ingram is a more versatile threat and i'm not sure what AP is better at than Ingram. I agree the rotations has them both not getting enough carries. Kamara deserves to be a part of the game plan every week as our change of pace back.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:14 pm to 12Pence
Without Kamara, the split between AD and Ingram would have been easier to manage. But with Kamara and Ingram taking all the passing downs, its tough to not be predictable with formations and runs with AD in the game. They will to throw to Peterson sometimes just to keep the D honest
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:16 pm to 12Pence
Biggest mistake was bringing in Peterson.
He's not going to be happy playing a backup role and at this point having 2head rb system is a lot better than trying to get 3 adequate snaps. Ingram had a damn good year, Kamara looks fluid. Odd man out is Peterson who won't get much playing time if we can't open up running lanes because he can't catch it pass protect.
He's not going to be happy playing a backup role and at this point having 2head rb system is a lot better than trying to get 3 adequate snaps. Ingram had a damn good year, Kamara looks fluid. Odd man out is Peterson who won't get much playing time if we can't open up running lanes because he can't catch it pass protect.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:20 pm to htran90
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Biggest mistake was bringing in Peterson
I've been keeping up with the media today, and all the ex players, and scouts/management people are all saying exactly this. Saints just should not have brought him in period, simply doesn't fit.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:34 pm to ATLienTiger
he needs to choose one and let them go for it....I don't give a shite which one he chooses but this carousel of rotating backs does not work especially for this team.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:38 pm to htran90
quote:My confusion is that if I knew his touches would be limited, how does Peterson not know that?
He's not going to be happy playing a backup role and at this point having 2head rb system is a lot better than trying to get 3 adequate snaps.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:42 pm to 12Pence
I completely agree with your thoughts. No other NFL team does this rotation crap like we do.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:44 pm to fischd1
Cinci might be the closest with Gio, Hill, Mixon.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:58 pm to htran90
quote:.... I agree... look Peterson is a future HOF but he's not nearly the same back he was that made him a HOF...it's the same situation that happened years ago when the saints signed Earl Campbell... By the time Earl played for the saints he had lost his energy to perform as he did years before...Peterson doesn't want to be a backup and you can't play 3 different RB's in a game and expect them all to get in a rythym... there's not enough game time to accomplish that...I understand Petersons displeasure last night especially against a former team he played for... he will never be satisfied unless he's playing the whole game... his comment to Payton last night about " They are kicking our arse" shows his Impatience with being on the sidelines and it's only going to get worse... he's a runner not a recieveing type of back and he could never block as a running back his whole career in the league... so where does he fit?...resigning Hightower would have been the right decision before signing Peterson... I really like the guy but his career is finished...
Biggest mistake was bringing in Peterson.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:03 pm to ATLienTiger
quote:Agree. Trying to get Peterson touches seems to be a distraction. I thought he was supposed to be the Mike Bell-type RB in that we used him late in games to finish off with the pounding. Instead, they are trying to mix each in almost every other play. Ingram needs to be the primary ball carrier.
I've been keeping up with the media today, and all the ex players, and scouts/management people are all saying exactly this. Saints just should not have brought him in period, simply doesn't fit.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:05 pm to lovinLSU
Maybe we need to play vs worse defenses and we'll see it blossom, but the nice part of having an ivory, Robinson, bell, and Hightower was they knew their role. They knew they were a closer. They knew they couldn't catch or pass protect well, so they ultimately knew their role is limited.
Peterson is 32 thinking he's an elite 25. He can't catch well, he can't pass protect. Play calling for him mirrored Ingram early
Peterson is 32 thinking he's an elite 25. He can't catch well, he can't pass protect. Play calling for him mirrored Ingram early
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:11 pm to 12Pence
Yeah I thought the same thing. It's tough to roll with the hot hand when none of our backs were able to carry the load for long enough stretches
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:15 pm to 12Pence
I think the plan was to get a lead, and pound a fresh Peterson in the 2nd half. unfortunately, we never sniffed a lead.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:40 pm to ATLienTiger
quote:
I've been keeping up with the media today, and all the ex players, and scouts/management people are all saying exactly this. Saints just should not have brought him in period, simply doesn't fit.
Yep. Looks good on paper, but in reality all you've done is brought in another ego to deal with. And Sean has shown an inability to manage large veteran egos.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:30 pm to 12Pence
Ingram needs a Devonta Freeman workload
Kamara needs a Tevin Coleman workload
Peterson only needs to play when the situation calls for Ingram and Ingram is gassed. He should be injury insurance, not a guy carrying the ball in the first quarter.
The rotation last night was just comical. No rhyme or reason, just rotating in an attempt to keep guys happy. It's absolutely detrimental to the team when a back isn't given the opportunity to get into a rhythm.
Kamara needs a Tevin Coleman workload
Peterson only needs to play when the situation calls for Ingram and Ingram is gassed. He should be injury insurance, not a guy carrying the ball in the first quarter.
The rotation last night was just comical. No rhyme or reason, just rotating in an attempt to keep guys happy. It's absolutely detrimental to the team when a back isn't given the opportunity to get into a rhythm.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:37 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
There is no such thing as a closer RB...your starter is your guy...he is your beginning to end back unless the game is unreachable on either end of the outcome....
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:58 pm to 12Pence
The problem with AD is he only offers running the ball or play action. He's never had great hands, and he certainty cannot pass protect at this point in his career (not that he ever did anyways). When he is an other worldly runner, you're willing to have him on the field for some plays and just understand noone of consequence is going to guard him if he goes on a route or the QB will just get extra pressure. When he is just a good runner, it almost isn't worth the plays he's not involved in to have him on the field.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:58 pm to Big D of the LC
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There is no such thing as a closer RB...your starter is your guy...he is your beginning to end back unless the game is unreachable on either end of the outcome....
Well that's not true.
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