re: Cap Heaven? - Cuts and Drew Brees Extension

Pretty sure the only person I want restructuring is Brees. The rest paycuts, cut from team, or absorb contract. Stop kicking the can down the road. Going into 2016 we actually don't look so bad with dead money but we do this year because of restructures in the past, Evans and Grubbs come to mind.

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Pretty sure the only person I want restructuring is Brees.

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I don't think you understand what restructuring is. The player gets paid the same either way at the same time. We're just converting a guaranteed roster bonus into a signing bonus. There is not a reason to not do it.

We have to restructure these contracts to get under the cap.

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Stop kicking the can down the road.

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Well I completely disagree. Kick the can until Brees retires. The salary cap keeps going up, and if you decide not to use the cap space generated you can roll over the savings to the next year.

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I want to be able to eat some of those monies this year so we're pushing less on the back end in future years.

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Why do that though? You can still restructure their contracts and not spend the money allowing it to role over to next year. There is really no reason not to restructure. So, under your strategy, you could still eat the monies this year while also creating options in case of injury

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if we do an extension with him and he doesn't play those 2 years, we are extending dead cap into future years post drew

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Which I think is a good strategy. With the way rookie contracts are set up and the rising costs of QB's, we would want to have 1 year to eat the dead money post retirement and hopefully get a top QB in that draft. I think that is the best strategy with the current rookie rules.

Personally, I see little reason not to restructure all of the contracts listed and extend Brees.

The cap is going to go up again next year to probably add another $10 million. I believe 2017 is supposed to have a drastic jump with a new TV deal.

Like you said, who knows how many years Brees has left near the top. Set it up to win in 2015 and 2016 by protecting him and bringing in top quality FA's

[quote]I don't think you understand what restructuring is. The player gets paid the same either way at the same time. We're just converting a guaranteed roster bonus into a signing bonus. There is not a reason to not do it. [/quote

I think restructuring is fine if we are sure about the player being good and staying the full contract, Brees and Lewis for example. Seems when we restructure it puts more dead money in the deals. I could be wrong, I'm asking more than anything. I would rather our cap situation be good when Brees leaves. I know we were 7-9 but we aren't but a few pieces and hopefully less injuries away from being a contender.

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I think restructuring is fine if we are sure about the player being good and staying the full contract, Brees and Lewis for example.

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Well it usually needs to be a player with several years left on his contract in order for it to make any sense.

The cap hit is the same either way if we restructure those roster bonuses. It spreads it out over the length of the contract. This is the point I'm trying to make though:

It is guaranteed money anyways. If we don't spend the money made available by the restructure, it rollsover to the following year giving us additional cap space.

So since it is already guaranteed, why wouldn't we generate the cap space?

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Seems when we restructure it puts more dead money in the deals

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The exact same amount actually, just spread not in 1 season. So you reduce the cap hit this year and prorate over the length of the contract.

I honestly think people look at dead money the wrong way. It should be viewed as a sunk cost in the current season. Is Jahri worth the cap savings we get? I don't think so

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I know we were 7-9 but we aren't but a few pieces and hopefully less injuries away from being a contender.

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I agree, which is why I want to keep signing free agents and push the can until Brees retires. The salary cap could be enormous by then anyways.

Even if we do have to take a 1 year hit when Brees retires, it would most likely be a bad year anyways with a new QB. His rookie contract would probably offset the dead money hit.

Please no more projects,coming off injuries or guys with f@cking upside down the road.
We need guys to play now.
I think the quality of our depth on the O-line at RB and at LB'er is tragic.

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We getting Suh?!?

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He stomps his feet and cries too much?!?