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re: Breesus
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:40 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:40 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
The point
Your made the idiotic assertion that the reason Brady helped his team is because his wife makes more money, as if they do not have a prenuptial agreement where he probably gets nothing in the event of a divorce.
I think Brady actually realized he would have better players to protect his arse if they restructured him in the manner they did.
But hey Brees deserves the money (no he does, I am actually not being a smartass) so it's okay for him to demand it.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:42 am to TigerBait1127
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Read what I wrote again
From what I am reading Manning's cap hit has never been higher than $18 million. I guess the Broncos are better are paying more while making it more cap friendly.
ETA: There is also that pesky restructure mid contract that "does not make sense."
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:44 am to euquol
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Your made the idiotic assertion that the reason Brady helped his team is because his wife makes more money, as if they do not have a prenuptial agreement where he probably gets nothing in the event of a divorce.
I made a point that his family has other sources of income worth hundreds of millions.
And I made the point that they gave him security early and gave him a raise well before he was due one way back when
He's had multiple large contracts, and has a career earnings of 162.8 million. Brees is at 150.5
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think Brady actually realized he would have better players to protect his arse if they restructured him in the manner they did.
He actually got paid more in his restructure from 2 years ago.
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But hey Brees deserves the money (no he does, I am actually not being a smartass) so it's okay for him to demand it.
Correct. It isn't his job to manage the cap for the Saints.
Denver has had a cap hit of $70.5 million for Manning, and he's not even playing now. Yet they've managed to build an awesome roster. Brees has had a cap hit of $70 million.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:47 am to TigerBait1127
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And I made the point that they gave him security early and gave him a raise well before he was do one way back when
And I made the point Brees is not exactly financially insecure. Yes, he has the right to get paid and he does not have to restructure to help the Saints or anyone else, but I think what Brady did for the team is a huge factor in why they are not 5-9.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:51 am to euquol
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And I made the point Brees is not exactly financially insecu
Where has anyone denied this?
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Yes, he has the right to get paid and he does not have to restructure to help the Saints or anyone else, but I think what Brady did for the team is a huge factor in why they are not 5-9.
A similar move to Brady would have been to extend Brees 5 extra years after 2009 and give him a raise for 2010 and 2011 despite being under contract
Security is big to the NFL players. Also, toms recent restructure had nothing to do with the salary cap. It freed up millions for Kraft from Escrow and he was actually given more money to do jt
His contract is now the 9th highest. Saints stated they wanted to wait until this season to extend, and he actually did restructure during this season
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
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Cap and Tannehill have $19 million contracts
Other than the Broncos, you are using examples of teams that are complete dumpster fires.
ETA: There's obviously ways to fairly compensate a top 10 QB and be cap friendly. Pats, Broncos
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:56 am to euquol
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Other than the Broncos, you are using examples of teams that are complete dumpster fires.
Actually, I was using an example of what the going rate is right now for shitty QBs.
If you want examples:
Aaron Rodgers $22m
Russell Wilson $21.9m
Big Ben $21.85m
Cam Newton $20.76m
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:57 am to TigerBait1127
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Finish fixing the DEFENSE and we'll compete for the playoffs next year
FIFY
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:58 am to TigerBait1127
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If you want examples:
Aaron Rodgers $22m
Russell Wilson $21.9m
Big Ben $21.85m
Cam Newton $20.76m
All playoff QBs this year except Ben and he may be one also.
ETA: Also all lower than Brees' cap hit.
ETA2: Nice try.
Cap hits:
Rogers: $18 million
Cam: $13 million
Ben: $17.3 million
Russell: $7 million but I will allow for the fact it's the first year of his mega contract.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:01 am to euquol
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ETA: Also all lower than Brees' cap hit.
Brees is not responsible for back loading his contract.
Unused cap space rolls over from year to year go. Year 1 was around a $10 million hit...
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:02 am to euquol
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All playoff QBs this year except Ben and he may be one also.
ETA: Also all lower than Brees' cap hit.
So do you just not know how the NFL works?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:03 am to jdrumdog
He thinks Brees is washed up
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:05 am to TigerBait1127
Well let's see, how many of you tards would take a paycut at ur jobs. Brees is maybe the second smartest QB of all time, maybe behind Manning, the original problem is a front office who would not forsee cap issues we are having with this terrible contract among others.
I believe Jeff Ireland takes over next year.
I meant 4k seasons BTW, I was so pissed typing imI added a 0.
I believe Jeff Ireland takes over next year.
I meant 4k seasons BTW, I was so pissed typing imI added a 0.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:06 am to TigerBait1127
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Uh, that was my point
My bad, thought you were giving me examples of "shitty QBs" making more than Brees.
Actually, I was using an example of what the going rate is right now for shitty QBs.
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Actually, I was using an example of what the going rate is right now for shitty QBs.
If you want examples:
Aaron Rodgers $22m
Russell Wilson $21.9m
Big Ben $21.85m
Cam Newton $20.76m
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:08 am to Tigeralltheway
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Brees is maybe the second smartest QB of all time, maybe behind Manning, the original problem is a front office who would not forsee cap issues we are having with this terrible contract among others.
Brees is/was a great QB but let's not get carried away.
Also, I highly doubt the Saints never approached Brees about a restructure to curb this problem. If they never did, they deserve the dumpster fire that is to come.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:09 am to euquol
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Also, I highly doubt the Saints never approached Brees about a restructure to curb this problem. If they never did, they deserve the dumpster fire that is to come.
I've already tried to explain this to you.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:11 am to TigerBait1127
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I've already tried to explain this to you.
You said it did not make sense to restructure mid contract. I will go ahead and throw P. Mannings mid contract restructure at you.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:13 am to Tigeralltheway
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I don't get how so many of you want this man gone.
I've always considered him to be a decent poster.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:13 am to euquol
I was giving an example of non dumpster fires.
Here's some more QB salaries:
Eli: $21m
Rivers: $20.8m
Ryan: $20.75m
Flacco: $20.1m
Cutler: $18.1m
Stafford: $17.7m
Smith: $17m
Dalton: $16m
Here's some more QB salaries:
Eli: $21m
Rivers: $20.8m
Ryan: $20.75m
Flacco: $20.1m
Cutler: $18.1m
Stafford: $17.7m
Smith: $17m
Dalton: $16m
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